Ivermectin selling out nationwide

I guess there’s a case to be made that people should ultimately be able to make their own healthcare decisions even against the advice of doctors, but forcing a doctor to administer a treatment they disagree with feels like crossing a line.

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Why didn’t the woman just go to the Vet?

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I’m coming from a different perspective but I’m okay telling doctors to administer the appropriate healthcare to women or GTFO.

I’m against judges deciding between therapies. Though the reality is that this, rarely, occurs. Usually in heartbreaking no win situations. It’s something they avoid and they make some of the saddest judgements to read.

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There was cherry-picking, with garbage papers included because they matched the authors’ pro-ivermectin advocacy.
More importantly, the heavy lifting for the positive overall effect was done by one large study from Egypt that turned out to be fraudulent, with the data 100% fabricated.

https://pubpeer.com/publications/991F728210B15F9F85D4CDEDC39C67

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The Guardian headline about “ethical concerns” is mealy-mouthed bafflegab. The paper was withdrawn because it was completely fraudulent.
Which is a kind of ethical concern, I suppose.

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OK but I don’t think that means (for example) a court can make an optometrist perform an abortion or make an OB-GYN prescribe recreational drugs to a woman who wants to trip her way through labor.

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Neither do I. But I have read judges, real ones, not these fuckwits, have to decide and agonising. They should never want to of course, and proper ones don’t.

This guy… As Livia Soprano put it “I don’t know about him”.

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I could imagine that, faced with an area heavily populated by raccoons, the horses would opt to live elsewhere. No offense :wink:

Yep. It reminds me a lot of the kids at school who’d say, “the Bible says so!” [Narrator: It didn’t.] and when challenged with, “where does it say that?” They’d hem and haw and say they knew it said that because their preacher told them so. I’m not religious, but if you are, how many people are you going to let stand between you and the word of God and still think it’s the word of god? I mean, you can grab a copy at literally any motel in the US. :woman_shrugging:t2:

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I want some right-wing idiot to say that arsenic cures COVID-19 so that we can put a permanent stop to the current stupid going around.

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One can make the argument that the children might be better off without adults trying to “protect” them with pseudo-scientific conspiracy theory based crap.

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Not if they’re giving it to their kids.

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True. I was thinking more along the lines of them taking themselves out before they could harm their kids.

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What does it eat, and how often do you feed it?

[sits back and waits for hilarity to ensue]

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Could it be that it’s on “the computer” might be enough to qualify as serious “research”? Scientists do science on computers. I do stuff on computer. Ergo, I am scientist.

Growing up with BBSes and then gradually getting the Internet filled me with visions of how great things would be with everything & everyone connected. How naive I was.

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Heh. Growing up in an unincorporated community in what most of y’all lovingly call flyover country, a big part of me thought it would be great to connect to like minded people all over the world, even if I’m physically surrounded by a titties and beer atmosphere. The rest of me knew that that as soon as computers stopped being for geeks, the internet would just make the titties and beer people even moreso.

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If any of those animal cops shows are any indication, not often enough by many owners.

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Partly, but not entirely true.

DuckDuckGo’s results are a compilation of “over 400” sources,[53] including Yahoo! Search BOSS, Wolfram Alpha, Bing, Yandex, its own web crawler (the DuckDuckBot) and others.[3][53][54][55] It also uses data from crowdsourced sites, including Wikipedia, to populate knowledge panel boxes to the right of the results.

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I knew it was going to be shit back before the web existed.
Message posted: Mon 10226 Sep 1993

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Well, the conclusion is wrong, somewhat.

The current consensus seems to be Ivermectin has some in-vitro antiviral effects but for use against COVID the needed dosage would be well enough above any safe limit and the toxic effect will outweigh the positive.

See also: https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/cells.png

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