To late.
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Ahem. âTooâ late. 
Youâre pushing your luck dragonâŚ
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He and I seem to have a thing. I lose a lot.
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Back to the topic.at hand. Baring in mind that the records have been expunged, can someone with an understanding of the nonsense that is the US legal system clarify: Can anything be done to this subhuman family?
And i am to assume that you were not actually minimizing rape and molestatiuon by comparing it to say⌠peeping in windows⌠or masturbating in the mens room?
Those are âpervyâ for 14 year olds. Molestation is not âpervyâ and to say so is like calling an angry drunk a social drinker.
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Iâm not sure calling them all subhuman is an improvement over anyone else calling them basically blameless.
Beyond their profitable reality show contract? Not likely. Hopefully there can be a civil suit against the loathsome family, hopefully Arkansas can change their time to report for rape (I am less optimistic of this.)
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The disgraced Arkansas state trooper who was first alerted to the Josh Duggar molestation allegations is contradicting the story Jim Bob Duggar later told Springdale, Ark., police
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Molestation, the kind of violent act we brush under the carpet and pretend it doesnât have long lasting impacts on the human psyche that are worth noting by society.
Because infantilization. Because defense mechanisms. Because denial.
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Would it be a coincidence that the FRC opposed the Violence Against Women Act?
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Oh it just MUST be coincidence. Sort of like how, by luck, that police officer was off duty when he âtalkedâ to Josh.
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Jim Bob told him about only one incident of molestation and that, in part, is why he decided not to report Josh to the abuse hotline.
It was only one little measly rape, folks.
Nothing to see here from a convicted pedophile, no sir. Nice to see that he hasnât learned anything and is still a poor human being.
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âI have lost a lot of sleep over it. I am a Christian myself and I worry that something else may have happened. I would be responsible for it, in my opinion, by not reporting it. The young girl should have been my first priority.â
Well, maybe the US prison system does have some rehabilitative qualities left in it, after all.
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This event occurred well before his arrest for possession of child pornography, so he may have âlearned this lessonâ much more recently.
I just have a hard time taking anything these people say seriously, but I will be gracious in that even if I doubt his retelling of what he knew, the statement was said with a bit of sincerity and without the usual ungrounded pity-me social conservative sophistry.
Well, whatâs interesting here is, whoâs lying?
If Hutchens is telling the truth, then clearly Jim Bob withheld vital facts.
However, the only way we will know Hutches is lying is if Jim Bob decides to describe what he told Hutchens, which would be more detailed than the initial PR flack they put out.
I will not hold my breath on Jim Bob saying more, but this does add to the suspicion that the family was more interested in covering up than correcting.
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Factually the family was more interested in covering up than correcting. Why else would they have sent their son to a âwork campâ to learn a trade (apparently sent under the conditions that the friend of the family was âoff-dutyâ and therefore would have no âobligationâ to report) instead of reporting serial molestation of 4 kids from their own family and other(s) to the police?
I usually hate the âtruth lies somewhere in the middleâ when used in a polarizing [all political parties are made up of fallible humans therefore iâm going to minimize the evils of one in particular that just coincidentally happens to be the only one people use that statement for] sense, but not when theyâre both lying. I donât doubt that the family didnât tell about every single rape, but I DO think that there was told more than enough for a LEO to report them to child services and justice (if he wasnât a social conservative âitâs okay to be vile as long as you take it up with the Man Above!â with direct and personal sympathies for pedophiles.)
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Exactly this. The Duggars had every ability as parents to correct his behavior, either by calling the police or by dealing with this one-on-one the moment they found out. But instead they sent him away, as Mausium says. He spent time at the creepy Christian youth-counseling center founded by Hobby Lobby, which clearly didnât help. When they actually reported it, it was to a personal friend, himself a pedophile. The Duggars want desperately to project the image of the Perfect Gigantic Happy American Family, but weâre seeing a crazily rotten core.
Even âreportingâ contextually carries a false air of authority, as he was operating as the family friend, under the intentions that he would not follow his legal and moral obligations. They mentioned it only as the impetus to get him into âhonest character-building hard laborâ and away from being around children / his outside accusers as well.
Sure, you can âreportâ something to someone without the connotations, but in this case persons can conflate âreportâ as involving a serious inquiry with something you tell a person, which is a grave error considering how many people still will think they discussed this scenario officially with a representative of local law enforcement, which they never at any point did until the outside party forced their hand.
These people are all more interested in how they might be perceived by others than doing good, which, while certainly not exclusive to, is supported by their faith.
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