Is there any danger her seat would go to a Democrat? I can’t imagine the race is at all competitive if Marjorie Taylor Green won it. She’s such a classic case of the party gerrymandering a seat to be safe, but then having their candidate primaried by a nutjob because the seat is so safe that they literally can’t lose.
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It would almost be nice if things were this simple, but they’re not, from my own experiences.
The bigger problem is that a huge number of Republican voters (not all of whom are registered Republicans mind you) vote on one issue, and one issue alone: Their personal taxes.
Literally EVERY other issue is irrelevant to them. The ONLY thing they care about is how much of their paycheck is taken by Uncle Sam.
They don’t care about sound fiscal policy, they don’t care about abortion, they don’t care about Muslims, they don’t care about a beyond-extreme view of the 2nd Amendment.
No, they only care about their taxes, and they vote for the candidate who they perceive will lower their taxes.
At the end of the day, I actually find this attitude more nihilistic than the QAnon contingent. At least they ostensibly “care” about something, even if it’s a total fraud, based on all sorts of horrible garbage, etc.
The possibly-good news is, Greene and even Trump are just as likely a sign of the imminent collapse of the GOP at least on the National stage, as they are of some lurking threat of fascist takeover. The Republican Party has created this monster, and this monster may well be its undoing – at least in terms of real power, outside of local politics (in States I will likely never visit, much less reside in). Rove seems to very much be acknowledging that, here.
To which I answer:
/grumpycatgood
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No likelihood in the near term of a Dem taking that seat - if she is expelled, the governor of Georgia would nominate her replacement, and that governor is mainstream GOP dirtbag Brian Kemp.
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Yes, Marjorie Taylor Greene is awful, but is anyone else a teeny bit uncomfortable that McConnell and co. drew the line and circled the wagons against a woman saying/doing these things?
Meanwhile they continue to tolerate Hawley, Cruz, and all the other male legislators who spout the same unbelievable shit and foment the same sedition, but in deeper, more mellifluous tones.
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They never actually condemned her for the sedition part.
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Good point. Gotta parse those condemnations more carefully.
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It’s the flagrantly insane conspiracy stuff they are objecting too (and nothing more). Heck, I doubt they even care about this stuff, they just wish she was more subtle about it. Bad for the brand, as they say — but these dolts might not realize their brand has shifted.
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The MTG person is a problem for his political games. Karl Rove himself if more of a problem for the world as a whole. One of the original geniuses who brought us Nazism V2.0.
Thanks for the reminder. Every time I read that quote I throw up in my mouth a little, but it’s good to remember how they think.
Every time I read that I also picture that as he’s saying “we create our own reality,” the birds are falling from the skies, the crop lands are flooding, the forests are burning. But no matter, because they’re creating their own reality, right? 
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Yes, they just want her out of the headlines but don’t want to have to do anything about it.
That’s why people like Rove are saying it’s appropriate to remove her from committees but aren’t calling for her expulsion from Congress. Removing her from committees only takes a simple majority vote in the House, so the Democrats can do it on their own without the Republicans having to take a public stand against one of their own. But expulsion would take a two-thirds majority, meaning that the Republicans would either have to either take action against her (thus alienating the radical right and drawing further attention to the divisions in their own party) or own the consequences of defending her.
They don’t want her there, but they’re secretly counting on the Democrats to fix the problem.
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He is just worried she will hurt the GOP. It’s nothing to do with lines he won’t cross, just what is “bad for business”
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To be fair (which they absolutely do not deserve) they did the same thing for white male Steve King for his “when did white supremacy become a bad thing” op-ed.
In both cases, they don’t care about how horrible the person is. People knew for years that Steve King was an unapologetic white supremacist, everybody knows that Cruz, Hawley, and Greene are horrible people with horrible beliefs willing to do horrible things. That is a feature. Until they go and express those beliefs that everyone knew they had with slightly too little plausible deniability for being an outright Nazi, then “they are a cancer on the GOP”.
And Rove isn’t even saying kick her out. He wants her in the big tent, just not at the center of it.
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To be honest, I don’t really care if she’s in Congress or not. She was elected in a fair election, from what I understand (well, her opponent dropping out for unspecified reasons that may have been threats of violence notwithstanding, because that’s not been alleged as far as I know). It’s not like her district would go to a Democrat in any case, and if they want to elect a crazy to represent them, last I checked, they get to?
I’ve always looked at “democracy” as promising (often not delivering) what the majority wills – not a good outcome, necessarily. I personally find the stripping her of power/committee appointments approach reasonable. I’m also fine if the Democrats have to (get to?) own that course of action.
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She ran unopposed.
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If you want a deeper read of the sad, sordid tale, I just read this. So, it doesn’t sound like he was directly threatened with violence, but between a divorce that literally forced him out of his house overnight, and the overall threat of violence, it was too much, and he moved back in with his family in Indiana.
Which sucks, because it sure seems he would be an infinitely better elected official than Greene. However, he would not, likely, have actually been more representative of his district, and I will say again – democracy does not guarantee positive outcomes. It just gives us a fighting chance at avoiding a guaranteed worst-case scenario.
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As the kids say nowadays, “THIS”.
Republicans are being realists- they know that at the end of the day, you have to somehow contain her problems without completely insulting her district’s voters. They’re trying hard not to play the “the elites know better than you” card, knowing how well that would go over.
Turd Blossom.
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Karl Rove is scum. Ham Rove is good comedy.
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Naw. Screw those guys. Greene’s voters have shown that their ballot choices do not deserve anyone’s respect. There is a reason that congress has a mechanism in place for removing members who are manifestly unfit. If this situation doesn’t warrant it then what would?
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