Continuing the discussion from Late Stage GOP Fascists Events ππΎππ€‘ (Part 3) - #5039 by mspie500.
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Continuing the discussion from Late Stage GOP Fascists Events ππΎππ€‘ (Part 3) - #5039 by mspie500.
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Dang. Part 4. Sure would be nice if this is the last one of these, but Iβm not holding my breath.
It did hurt when I made the last post in part 3
Iβve never had warm and fuzzies for Joe Manchin, but it figures heβd call it quits now when the stakes are higher than theyβve ever been. West Virginia will replace him with someone much more objectionable, and yetβ¦ remember in 2021 when people were rowing out to his boat to shout at him? Iβll quote myself from back then:
Iβm sure Iβll be sorry sooner or later.
People were saying the same thing about GA in 2020β¦ We now have two solidly Democratic senators who do good work and we helped put Joe Biden in office. Letβs not give up yet. There is serious evidence that the extremism of the GOP and the βbothsiderismβ of folks like Manchin is wearing thin for many people.
Manchin was a dead man walking, and knew it. Justice was going to clock him in '24. He is just walking away without being humiliated at the polls. WV has become more MAGA than MAGA. Even a DINO like Manchin is too βliberalβ for them anymore. We will have to make up the seat elsewhere. It has been lost for a while, this changes nothing.
Donβt get me wrong - Manchinβs retirement is an opportunity for the Democrats to replace him with someone more useful, just as itβs an opportunity for the Republicans to make the numbers reflect the status quo that Manchinβs conservatism created. Weβve seen a lot of victories for principles and policy over propaganda recently; hopefully someone can ride a groundswell of enthusiasm from those victories into power. That said, from far away, my impression of the political reality in WV aligns with @anon29537550 βs description.
Tempered optimism might be in order.
All Iβm saying is that we shouldnβt give up before there is even an electionβ¦ Even if it is βmore MAGA than MAGAβ there, doesnβt mean it always will be. I will once again point out the change here in GA, and how so many people dismissed the idea that we could elect democrats to state wide officesβ¦
That part is important to remember.
ETA - iβm not great at it but itβs like any other habit of thought, improvement takes practice.
MAGA β Make America Georgia, at least in this respect.
The weird thing is WV was once a Democratic bastion. Hell, it was the only state besides MN to vote for Mondale! But it is very insular, sexist, racist, xenophobic and was easy prey for right wing fear campaigns surrounding Hillary and Obama. Add in βWar on Coalβ propaganda which was wrong, but easy to understand, despite the mines declining in employment far, far before that due to automation. Could it come back to us? Maybe. It will take a lot of time and work, as the hatred is deeply ingrained now, and the xenophobia is deeply established. When I go back there, it seems like a different world. Folks are honestly afraid to voice differing opinions for fear of social blowback. Itβs very sad, but I feel like I cannot visit my own home state because of the political climate. Add in that the factors blue-ing so many other states, namely the youth vote, is much less an issue in WV because most young people with an education and ambition leave for work, and the racial minorities are mostly notable for not being there, leaving an old, bitter and frightened populace that just rages against the evils they perceive coming from the βliberals and (homophobic slurs) in DC.β Not to argue too vigorously with you, @anon61221983 , but what I see of WV leaves me little hope for at least a generation or two. Far too late to help us in our current woes.
FTA:
Graham and fellow Republicans offered 88 GOP amendments
88, huh? And did they happen to explain them in 14 words?
Probably just a weird coincidence.
Sen. Lindsey Graham
Same procedure as every year day.
The high cost of freedumbs.
Oh God she already has problems with stalkers already and now she has to deal with conspiracy fools too
βRepublicans still havenβt internalized that the Left promotes abortion as a pro-feminism issue. They arenβt voting to kill babies, theyβre voting bc of feminist movies like Barbie and pop stars like Taylor Swift influencing an army of voters,β Posobiec wrote.
He fumed in another all-caps post that βTHE CHILDLESS, UNMARRIED ABORTION ARMY MOBILIZED BY BARBIE, TAYLOR SWIFT, AND TIKTOKβ was βCRUSHING REPUBLICANS AT THE BALLOT BOX.β
^this is what the kids call maidenless behavior
indeed. because fetuses arenβt babies