Again: Not the same thing. What kind of an action am I supposed to take on the basis of that statement?
If it’s just about my internal beliefs, my standard of proof will be relatively lax - does it pass the smell test? Is it at least a hair likelier to be true than not?
If I am to ostracize, fire or imprison somebody on the basis of that statement, I have to be a lot more careful and rigorous.
For the purposes of criminal convictions and incarceration, yes. For the purposes of forming an opinion about whether someone is likely guilty of a crime, no.
Unless you are serving on a jury, the only question you need ask yourself before forming an opinion is “whose version of events seems more likely: Louis C.K.'s or the women accusing him of sexual harassment?”
Maybe there was something when Fred Rogers was with Special Forces in Vietnam. 
Jesus fuck man… I didn’t need to imagine THAT.
If you’re going to take down Lois C.K. over this, Woody Allen must go, as well.
This is an important distinction. The law determines guilt, but in our own minds we are free to judge as we wish.
I’m a bit similar: Sniff test first, then examine how much smoke there is. Where there’s smoke, there’s usually fire.
Much good comedy is “uncomfortable”, if not all. If it isn’t, it doesn’t generate the necessary tension.
Of course, you don’t have Louis C.K.'s version of events. He’s refused to comment on anything to the point where people like Tig Notaro have called him out to, you know, say something in a “say it ain’t so, Joe” kinda way.
Wow. So there’s currently zero basis for such rumors. Nice!
I fully support strong repercussions for those we can verify to be abusers. THIS kind of crap, however? No, not even close.
By “everyone”, you mean men, right? No, it most certainly does not cancel out…
Rogers was never in the military.
Not only did Fred Rogers never serve in the military, there are no gaps in his career when he could conceivably have done so.
Dear goddess, I sure as hell hope not.
My limited faith in humanity has already taken too many hits, just this week alone…
It was a joke. Hence the smiley at the end.
Thanks for clarifying. Still leaving that up because a lot of people think he was.
That is even more surprising!
Fred Rogers was also a devoted pacifist; that claim never made any sense anyway.
I’m pretty bummed out to find out the cardigans weren’t because he was tatted up from being in the military; that was a rather cool urban legend.
Oliver is always talking about how just when we think we’ve hit rock bottom, there’s always another level to which we can sink even lower.
Personally I’m just so bone weary I dont even know what to do.
if every woman is sexually assaulted, does it cancel out their pain?
That’s a complete strawman. A few dozen people who were protected for years by a culture of enabling no longer being as readily protected from consequences is not the same thing as an industry with many hundreds of thousands of people all being guilty. Nor is it with the priesthood. Nor is it with Silicon Valley. Rinse and repeat with most any other industry.
