Luke Cage

I concur.

He got pretty huffy too, when I hit him with a Dude-ism:

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The first half of the season is pure magic. Among other tricks, the story makes you forget the fact that no character depicted (except maybe Mariah and Cottonmouth) could ever afford 2016-Harlem rents. Black stereotypes are also a dime a dozen, but whatever, we whiteys won’t complain if you keep churning out fight scenes with Wu-Tang soundtracks.

Unfortunately, the second half is a major letdown, it feels rushed. The big twist is not followed up properly. Black Mariah gets downright schizophrenic and uncharacteristically weak in a lot of scenes. The plot starts going to pot, bringing in a ruthless assassin with a literal magic bullet, who is so incompetent that he repeatedly fails his kills in trivial ways. The last episode is downright embarrassing for a series that started all urban and realistic.

It feels like Marvel had to do a Luke Cage to get to Defenders/Heroes for Hire, started producing it, then thought “fuck it, this will do, let’s wrap it up”. If a S2 happens, I hope they get back to basics and write it properly for the full season.

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Some people don’t like to think that their tastes are just that–their tastes!

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I dropped Jessica Jones because Tennant’s character literally made me puke in disgust. For the character and his powers, and what he does with them. Great production, great story, just… man. Too much for me. As soon as he sends the kid to piss his pants in the closet I was like, nope nope nope.

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Kilgrave is over the top evil, but that’s the point, right? He’s meant to be completely narcissistic and dangerous to those around him. The ending sort of makes it all worth while, though.

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Did you read the source material?

The Purple Man is one of the most heinous villains that has ever existed in the Marvel Canon.

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They did a great job with his character. There’s a only couple of series where the villain pisses me off so much I find it tricky to watch*. Good heel heat like that is rare.

*Lucifer. I should enjoy Lucifer, but he’s just so good at sleazy douche.

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Tennant sort of stole the show, didn’t he?

Although, honestly, I loved the friendship between Trish and Jessica. That was the best part of the series, the most affirming, I think. When she leans around Kilgrave and tells Trish “I love you” that was awesome…

I just realized there is no correlative to a woman’s friendship to “bromance.” Misogyny strikes again? :wink:

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Womance?

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Hmmm… Nah. Not working for me.

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He was just deliciously evil. Petty, manipulative, amoral, vindictive and just an all-round dick. Proper bad guy. :slight_smile: I gotta re-watch it.

Yeah, the backstory on that was amazing. Like, you don’t often get that sort of levels of complexity between two characters in many dramas, let alone a superhero one.

Always figured that “bromance” was a thing invented to deflect criticisms of weakness because a deep friendship shows a suspicious amount of emotional depth. So yep. :slight_smile:

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And this is sort of key, even here. Women are expected to be deeply connected, because we are “more emotional”, but in Jessica Jones, it’s clear that Jessica has a hard time connecting with others, and when she says I love you to Trish at the end, when she’s about to snap that assholes neck, she’s showing an emotional depth that the character hadn’t show throughout the series - but her behavior is much more masculine in the series, right?

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That’s interesting. I’d not really looked at it in quite those terms. It’s a powerful scene right enough, but I hadn’t really thought too much about why it was so effective.

Now I’ve really got to go and re-watch it, keeping an eye out for that sort of stuff.

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Yeah, this is one of the reasons Jessica Jones is one of my favorite parts of the MCU. There was a fair amount of depth going on. Same with Luke Cage, too.

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Agreed on all points.

And that was an absolutely brilliant scene IMO; right down to the subtlety of Jessica leaning ever so slightly around Kilgrave to make eye contract with Trish as she spoke that fateful phrase.

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This is when I stopped watching too! Just, yeah. No.

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You really might want to give it another try.

His comeuppance is well worth the wait, IMO.

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A lot of it wasn’t in Harlem, most of the other characters lived around the 150th and Broadway area, both according to street signs and what I saw in the background. Hamilton Heights is still affordable to any of those characters. But even Mariah lived up on the straight section of Convent, which doesn’t start until 141st and only runs to 152nd.

This show was a lot more uptown than the traditional borders of “Harlem” would indicate, the big fight took place all the way at 175th by the El Malecon sign in the background. Be sure to get the fried plantains.

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Nope. I’m just as content hearing about it and calling it a day. I just get squicked out at him doing incredibly horrifying things to people emotionally without their will, I ain’t got time to spend 11 hours being very uncomfortable and filled with dread just to watch them get theirs.

I don’t need a bad guy so, so, so bad that any revenge fantasy on them can be excused.

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