Man faces fines of $500 a day for front yard zombie nativity scene

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Free speech.

Does not mean freedom from criticism.
(And, as Iā€™ve said in other comments on this thread, I am not defending the punitive legal action against him.)

I think thatā€™s totally fair, though. Itā€™s definitely a very rational way of looking at the world, and being able to divorce things from context is a really important skill, I think. (In case itā€™s not obvious, itā€™s one that I somewhat lack. :stuck_out_tongue:)

Oh, to be sure, they are, but they can also be informed by religion. I guess my point is people can come at goodness in different directions, the same way they can come at badness (faith and rationality alike.)

No, for sure. I think weā€™re on the same page now. Thanks again, mate!
(P.S.: Iā€™m jealous you get to live in Austria. I spent a summer in Innsbruck two years ago and it was marvelous.)

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Thank you, too :smile:

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Are those claimable as solely religionā€™s purview? Those are human qualities and have nothing to do with oneā€™s belief in the reanimation of the earthly child of a deity.

Name some positive quality that you think is solely religious, and I will name a human quality that is just the same and transcends religion.

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No, they arenā€™t, I grant you, but itā€™s a mechanism by which someone can come at goodness and shouldnā€™t be tossed out as being invalidated by the evils committed in the name of faith (which, by the way, there are a lot of horrible things done in the name of things that arenā€™t religionā€“nationalism is honestly a much bigger killer in the modern era.)

And, say it with me, scenery must abide by local building codes.

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Do you think thatā€™s why atheists disavow religion?

I imagine atheists disavow religion for any number of reasonsā€“some for ethical reasons, some because they donā€™t see the rational possibility of a higher power.
My point is not that all atheists are bad, or that religious people are a put-upon minorityā€“just that thereā€™s this narrow, myopic tendency for people to assume that all religion is evil and stupid and bad and dangerous and thereā€™s this really irritating circle-jerk that reinforces that.

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How about a nativity scene with the people all represented by Furbys?

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A great proportion of the Holy Building Codes is there just to empower petty bureaucrats and extort permit fees.

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Yeah how dare this entrepreneur use a sacred holiday to raise awareness of his small business.

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Are we still talking about dildos, or was that the other topicā€¦

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An even greater proportion are there to prevent people from dying.




http://press.hse.gov.uk/2013/scenery-collapse-turns-into-drama-for-worker/

But sure, every legislation and overwatch exists just to bother you personally. Maybe Iā€™ll take you around to meet some crew members who watched their friends die because producers wanted to cut corners. Theyā€™re a fun bunch.

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This guyā€™s rational calm demeanor makes me think heā€™s an atheist.

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I think the dear wife would quite like that.
Zombie Furbies, of course.

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Which people?

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Fine. Show me how dangerous a garden shed can be.

Or why in one county you ā€œneedā€ a permit to run a cable through house, sometimes even just a signal one, and just a mile away you suddenly donā€™t.

Also show me where I said that ALL codes are wrong. Pare the rules down to the about 10-20% of the sensible ones, focus compliance resources on those, and nobody except the bureaucrats will mourn the rest.

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Iā€™m not cutting edge enough to decorate my house with wired up dildonica.

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