Well it wasn’t in Doom, so I wasn’t sure what you knew…
But yeah, just putting out the correct information. The Police and Media get details like this wrong ALL THE TIME. Cops are not generally “gun people”. For every cop who knows a lot about guns, you got a dozen who barely know how to clean and shoot their service weapon and that’s about it. The average media person has no clue at all.
It takes pistol rounds, so to them, it’s a modified pistol. But those words have legal meanings so it isn’t just pedantic squabbling. For example, buying a pistol requires a higher age than buying a rifle. If one WERE to modify a pistol into a rifle with too short of a barrel, they would run afoul of the Federal NFA law.
Re: St Louis, I’ve been there a few times. Once around the zoo area for my then wife’s business, and once was trying to sign some papers to get my kid dual citizenship with Poland (didn’t work ), and the last time was some bar to see My Life with the Thrill Kill Kult. I can’t find the pics from that show, but they looked more or less like this from a year later. The bar was in a nice area, surrounded by gorgeous old but run down buildings. I stayed in a Motel 6 that seemed shady, but it is amazing how much cheaper it is to stay in a place when you don’t care about personal safety.
wow, checked your link, new handgun for 200$… is the barrel metal? I know it sounds like a stupid question, but I recall when I was a lad Remington (I think) had a .22 with a nylon barrel… there are also those bear banger guns that shoot 410 gauge bangers ; they have plastic barrels, not supposed to shoot shot loads with them but people do
Mmm, you must be thinking of the Remington Nylon 66, which didn’t have a Nylon barrel, but a Nylon stock. This was weird when it came out because guns were supposed to have wood stocks. A plastic stock wasn’t really a thing back then.
Fun fact - my nephew inherited one last year.
Haven’t seen those, but makes sense if it is just firing blanks.
As for Hi-Point - yes, they are cheap. They get a bad wrap among “gun” people because they are so damn bulky and ugly. BUT, from what I have seen for reviews, they actually work pretty well. Thus for a poor person who wants something for home defense, it is an ideal weapon.
They also have a sense of humor. They are coming out with a G2 version of their pistol, making it a little less ugly, many more features some as accessory rails, modified grips, a bit more capacity, and a new grip safety - all while retaining the low price.
They put out a call to the internet to name the new gun - and like the internet does, they “ruined” it. It’s prototype name was just a C9, but the internet named it “Yeet Cannon”. They resisted at first, but thanks to internet pressure they gave in, and are even laser engraving their G1s as “Yeet Cannon G1” for a limited time. Ah, well, that’s what happens. Better than Shooty McBulletface or something like that.
Of course every situation is unique so I’m not saying how this guy behaved is the right thing to do in other hold up situations. But at least in this case his mellow response may have chilled the situation. Where as the AM you knew acting flustered increased the tension in the situation. I’ve known a few people that could get very anxious over random things and that energy can effect everyone around them.
But to reiterate, I don’t know what I would do in such a situation. I’m not an expert. It’s easy to armchair quarterback things like this after the fact.
ya nylon 66… I don’t think I ever saw one IRL but I remember reading an article in a gun magazine when I was probably about 6, (cause according to the Wiki article, that’s about when they came out) . The magazine article had a “Gee Whiz” attitude and I guess I misinterpreted what was going on there. I remember I did think it wouldn’t be very accurate and I thought it would be a “zip gun” candidate ( the moral panic weapon of the time ) . I stopped reading gun magazines when I was about 10, the same time I stopped going to the barber ( damn hippy!)
surely we must have watched a different video? or, are you saying the robber lives at the bar. ( very confused )
personally, this is why i choose to live in a gated community with ex-navy seals as my private security force. i just can’t justify forcing my family to take turns sleeping and doing patrols night after night.
also, the risks of the gun getting misused seem way higher than gunning down the opposition at two in the morning, so there’s that.
but, hey. maybe if we all have cheap guns, we’ll be safe. finally totally safe.
To go off on a generalizing tangent to M44’s answer, there is an entire class of weapons called pistol caliber carbines (PCC) which are somewhat popular these days. This is one of them, on the low end of the market.
It’s inexcusable for an LEO to call it a modified pistol. Badly informed, or possibly badly understood and transcribed by a reporter (seems more likely).
It’s like, if every time there was a blog post like this:
We spent 1/3 of the thread talking about whether the Subarus were modified or were low-end tuner specials like the 2005 Subaru Impreza TS or high-end special editions like the 2009 Surabu Legacy 2.5GT SpecB, and how silly it was for the media to call those cars “modified,” though the Impreza TS took regular 87 octane and the Legacy SpecB requires 92 or higher octane premium. With a side discussion of whether ECU programming via the Cobb Accessport counts as “heavily modified” or even a modification at all. What stage of tuning was done? Was it Stage 2 or Stage 3? Did they dyno it on a heartbreaker, in-ground Mustang dynomometer or a sweet heart Dynojet?
Geez, was there a bear in this video? Totally missed it. Unless, you mean the cigarette guy? And no, it was totally a Cobra https://youtu.be/DCr5Qi6XmOo?t=29
to me, the more pertinent question would be do cheap guns and lax gun laws make people safer than well regulated guns and strict gun laws?
in that context, home defense is a red herring. people have been sold the lie that guns mean safety. and while that may indeed be true sometimes for some particular individual in some specific anecdotal situation… it is not true for society at large.
i might be in the minority, but in situations ( albeit ones that wouldn’t occur on the regular if we had even close to normal gun laws ) where nobody died and basically everything was okay in the end… i kind of like the nerdery about guns or cars or bears or whatever
what triggers me is people not acknowledging that their hobby - guns, skydiving, bear fighting, macrame, building backyard thermonuclear reactors - costs lives. that their hobby shouldn’t be subject to reasonable constraints. and in fact go out of their way to assert their hobby is good for everyone and of great benefit to society.
( i’m not thinking of anyone in particular here, mind you. just spitballing. )
), and the last time was some bar to see My Life with the Thrill Kill Kult. I can’t find the pics from that show, but they looked more or less like this from a year later. The bar was in a nice area, surrounded by gorgeous old but run down buildings. I stayed in a Motel 6 that seemed shady, but it is amazing how much cheaper it is to stay in a place when you don’t care about personal safety.
Ah, well, that’s what happens. Better than Shooty McBulletface or something like that.
( damn hippy!)
