Only added that he didn’t go to college so there’d be no confusion as to whether HST got an honorary doctorate/degree. I did know he didn’t graduate from high school, but I thought that it may have been TMI just to answer @RogerStrong’s question.
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Thank you. Now I know which ones to aim my cats at.
Just kidding, they’re indoor cats, but seriously those birds are annoying.
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We only have Carolina chickadees here, which have different calls. I really like birds, and esp. chickadees, though I could see that call getting tedious after a while.
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Please, show me all of the non-human economics, non-human music, non-human dance, and non-human math.[/quote]
Economics, music, dance - too tangled to want to delve into. Economics - simple no. Music/dance - more complex since some non-human species appear to make sounds/move purely for the enjoyment of doing so, and then semantics and things drag in and it’s a mess not worth the time.
While non-human animals don’t do math in the sense of math theory, or writing formulas, various species do understand things like counting, and a few species are very numerically sophisticated and can do some simple arithmetic. The amazing New Caledonian crows can track numbers of things in really sophisticated ways, and pigeons are capable of remarkably abstract mathematical thinking. So if you’re talking pre-Greek human math (applied arithmetic), animals do simple math. If you’re talking post-Greek human math (abstract reasoning about that stuff), then no. This is again a tangent, since I like birds.
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You have things backwards here. In econ. economists basically look at the messy piles of facts that are involved in human trade and build models based on that. Government economists then then use models to influence trade based on the models (sometimes for the worse). But a model is a product of human abstract reasoning and is the thing economists create based on what they see/want to see/decide is how things should be/etc. Also there’s more than one model. And it’s worse than that. But the point is models are a product of abstract human reasoning and aren’t a thing you find, but a thing you make based (sometimes) on what you find.
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I like birds too.
My experience was that in econ. economists look at messy piles of ideological nonsense and construct models out of that and then pretend reality fits them and then we’re all fucked.
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Indeed. I didn’t want to start with defeating my point, but that’s why I wound up at “and it’s worse than that.”
Also this discussion would be better if there was more talk about birds.
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By coincidence, I’ve also assisted more than one small town banker with Reg Z adventures. I’m not following your point or the transition though.
The question was about pausing to reflect on how best to remedy the problem of concentrated, democratically unaccountable corporate media.
Now we’ve paused. And … we’re on banks? Why not engage the first question?
Or say, yeah, I’ve paused, and I still dunno?
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Are birds bigger jerks than Marco Rubio?
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There’s a whole bird-jerk continuum. Rubio is roughly equal to geese in jerkiness level. Not quite at swan-level, though Trump is.
thank you for letting me reuse my Nazi swan
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Canada geese give their country a bad name.
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Herring gulls maybe?
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Wait, were we talking about Cruz?
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Visiting Canada recently, I spotted this glaucous-winged gull stealing a kid’s ice cream. I think all gulls are in the jerk zone, though not quite goose-level.
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The statement you are replying to[quote=“Moerae1, post:95, topic:78200”]
Economics while manipulated and controlled by humans was not created by humans any more than music and dance or math.
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is nonsensicle for many reasons, not the least it’s composer,
but
Because they so pretty
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why not stop there.
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Check out this mysterious artifact from the Royal Society archives.
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Oh, that’s cool! Would never have guessed they were variations on the mark(s) of the beast(s).
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Can you name the top three media owners doing this consolidation? What type of ideas do you think they’re trying to prevent?
(edited small typo)
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Oh, banking. And here I am in a long thread with no likes available to give, so I guess I’m stuck typing instead.
I have quite a bit of work experience with locally-owned banks and what happens to them when they finally have some competition. Long story short: once locals have a choice, they pick banks that offer more and better services. The personal touch only goes so far when you have to get to your bank by 3pm (and not on Wednesdays or Saturdays) in order to physically make a deposit or meet with a loan officer, and your savings or money market account earns half of what it would at the bank down the road.
Plus, the reason for banking regulations is because banks were routinely doing very bad things, like creating the concept of “redlining” to keep blacks in poor urban areas with little to no access to banking services. Regulations are a good thing in this case.
There are still some locally owned banks standing. They’ve figured out how to join the 21st century instead of insisting that customers should be happy to stay in the mid-20th century.
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