I love this sort of Bizarro-world wordwashing. Law to make billionaires richer? “Tax reform.” Authoritarian dictatorship? “Democratic Peoples’ Republic.” Reluctantly divvying up what’s left after a economic debacle? “Shared Prosperity Fund.”
Just imagine all the money the “blue states” could save if they didn’t have to subsidize the mostly poor, sparsely populated “red states”…
or a job or economic viability in general.
Except for the fact that all those fucking bigots would be violently driving out much of their youth and talent in their drive to “purify” the new nation.
None of this ever happens cleanly, with no violence. Every single instance of this kind of actions leads to mass deaths and tons of violence. Every time. It is never a peaceful transition, it always involves violence, and in addition to the human tragedy, it leaves a major economic toll as well.
So, let’s not treat this like an intellectual exercise that would have no real consequences for the lived people in these states. it would be a wrenching bloodletting, and we really need to avoid it if at all possible.
Kind of forgetting a major one there - my friend! Let’s not forget that much of the metro area, not just the city of ATL would not want to be part of a Rump GA ran by reactionary racists.
The problem is that the red states would experience a brain drain, which would benefit everyone but them. Why would smart people want to stay in a state that idolises anti-intellectualism?
Eventually this will effect the economy, and looking at Britain it won’t take that long.
Thank you for adding to my eduction over the past few years.
Or - we could move the borders back to the original ones. Where Idaho didn’t exist and that land was just part or Oregon and Washington. I mean- there’s no reason for such a small population to have two Senators. Talk about lack of representation for other states.
Ah, Illinois. My state too. Are their issues? Sure. Every state has issues, but I like it here.
And speaking of ‘level of thought’. I heard Darren Bailey, the Republican candidate in the 2022 gubernatorial election, moaning several times about how the Chicago area and the suburbs had so much more influence than the large geographies of central and southern Illinois. He thought it very unfair. Well, as you pointed out, there are a lot more of us and we have a much larger economic footprint.
One problem is that the United States of Red aren’t very good at sharing. Would the wealthier Red States be willing to share their prosperity with the poorer states?
Also, in many Red States, the production that provides income has to travel through blue states. How would Wyoming get its coal to China if the Blue West Coast prohibits transportation across state lines?
It’s a similar question for Blue States.
Such a split would be disastrous for all involved, though some states would suffer a tiny bit less than others.
And, again, I’m gonna STRESS that the thing that would really matter would be the human toll, not the economic one. It would be a bloodbath, especially the red states with blue urban cores (which is, like almost EVERY red state, in fact). That’s what we REALLY need to keep in mind here, not the impact of the economy.
As always when one of these people says “woke” just change it to “ewok” in your head, it makes so much more sense then …
I didn’t forget…Georgia is in the Blue column in the scenario Fitzador laid out. No way I’d forget the ATL!
That’s another factor separatists on both ideological sides forget, too. The result would be a patchwork, whether on the state, county, parcel - or even within households.
This makes no sense. There won’t be a federal government.
Those red states that leave will still have a confederate government of their own; why would she care about the government she left behind?
She doesn/t seem clear on the concepts of ‘separation’ and ‘divorce’.
Projection, as always.
Still angling to be Lord Dampnut’s veep, aren’t we…
Promises, promises.
Of course, there’s a lot of overlap in that Venn diagram.
That’s actually a pretty good question; It’d probably still be handled just like it is now, unless the states that seceded also leave the Driver’s License Compact, in which case you’d probably need a passport or some other ID that they’ll accept.
Outside of that, I’d say that “It’s complicated” and go from there; a lot of it depends on what the new country decides to do as far as a new government.
You can add the Phoenix metropolitan area (i.e., Phoenix and all the surrounding cities) to that list. It’d be a war zone and a blood bath, because a lot of the residents here can’t just pull up roots and move. (including me)