I subtracted Atlanta from the total but forgot to remove it from the list. Sorry.
No worries!
Sorry, the only thing we have is a slightly smaller than normal door. But she’ll have to try to share it with Rose.
You know that our state is about half minority now, right?
don’t count your chickens as it were. the right pushes on whatever issues they can use to disrupt the conversation about actual issues.
so don’t be too surprised if de santis or abbott, after getting their anti trans bills passed, start pushing on medical or adoption rights of same sex spouses. alito and thomas have already tipped they’re willing to revisit gay marriage and gay rights
i don’t think this reflects reality. the right is becoming minority majority (edit: errr … majority minority? well you know. undemocratic at any rate.) they know this and they’ve long since given up on the issues. for pretty much forever they’ve worked to suppress minority voters because they know if everyone voted, they’d always lose
( see also the popular vote in presidential elections, which they lose time and time again )
the left is getting pushed by the long fight for equality and inclusion, but it refuses to stray too far from the donors. and the biggest left leaning donors are white liberal straight cis men, ardent capitalists. so progress comes in painfully slow fits and starts
those two sets of things far better explain ( in my opinion ) the party lines: not a tacit collusion to shoot for 50/50
You have not been paying attention to the last few elections in Oregon. There are 11 Counties that have PASSED the Initiative to Move County Border to Greater Idaho.
Maryland Legislature received 3 Counties Letters to Move Border to West Virginia.
30 County Committees are set up in Illinois to Move Border
There is a mechanism- following the process laid out in Article 4, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution**
That is what Illinois is doing.
Oregon’s 11 Counties have voted to Move County Border to Greater Idaho. Their research indicates:
This is a ‘Between States’ discussion. Congress has no say.
… is this like an automated translation from Russian or Chinese
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You seem to be replying to the point I quoted. You’d be better off replying to the post I quoted from or at least @-ing the user I quoted.
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You seem to have missed the point we were discussing. We weren’t discussing whether there is or is not a legal mechanism that could be used but rather whether there is a mechanism that will get secessionists what they want without major bloodshed.
@xkot was assuming they don’t want major bloodshed. I argued (admittedly rather obliquely) that the bloodshed is what they want. Secession is just a means to the bloodshed they want to achieve.
If you want to debate legal mechanisms for achieving secession, go ahead but find someone else to do it with as I have no interest in that discussion nor any particular expertise in that area.
You keep claiming that, but every article from reputable outlets says that such a change would require Congressional approval (in addition to a bunch of other hurdles). For example, see the end of this article:
And indeed, this proposed (and far from assured) “Greater Idaho” interstate compact – one in which the federal government most assuredly has an interest on a number of issues it can legitimately find objectionable (e.g. voting districts, representation, federal lands within the Oregon counties, changes to Medicaid and Medicare distributions, etc.) --would require the explicit approval of Congress.
The simpler solution for those upset by the “tyranny” of Salem would be to move across the state line to Idaho as it exists now. Apparently that’s not exciting enough for those Bundy fans who want to indulge in a secessionist fantasy.
I hear that Ada County and Boise are going to succeed and join New York. Maybe Vermont. True story- they can actually do this.
When this happens, it’s amusing how suddenly the right-wingers change their tune on who does or doesn’t have supremacy (and also who’s “deserving” of handouts).
The right-wing populist yahoos just can’t accept that diverse urban areas are the economic engines of 21st century life and that they’re more than willing to co-operate with rural areas and even subsidise them if the latter will get over their bigotries and religious fanaticism and simply allow it.
King Oliver 1:
“The governor declares the state bankrupt, shuts down most services, and raises taxes by 52%. Hothead Oliver demands the locals protest and, after hearing Lisa’s story of how her father the king responded to a tax increase, secedes from the union. They blow up the bridge across Simpson’s Swamp and anoint Mr. Douglas as King Oliver I. Now in a panic, Governor Carstairs puts on his waders and comes to the kingdom of Hooterville for a summit with his royal highness.“
So Marge had a good night’s sleep, gave it a lot of thought, woke up this morning and decided to keep going.
She ain’t gonna let 24 hours of people laughing at her discourage her, she’s still on the divorce thing with protecting kids and ESG thrown in for good measure.
At least she and her cultists have moved on from MSG.
None of EmptyG’s adherents would go for this idea.
What’s the point of living in a bunker in an isolated, fortified compound if the government is one you agree with? Why spend all day polishing your long rifles and fondling your sidearms with nothing to pretend to resist?