Do you realize that what you’ve effectively just said is “communism can’t work because nobody’s actually tried it?”
I assume that you mean to say that indicates that it’s impossible, but that’s a claim that you have very little evidence for. Regimes born out of violence tend to eventually resort to barbarism when their power is threatened, that’s got nothing at all to do with capitalism or socialism. Case in point: pretty much all of Latin America. Every time a country in Latin America started flirting with the idea of socialist policies, you end up with, primarily the US, coming in and pulling an Iran-Contra styled operation that either puts the new regime in a position where people panic and resort to authoritarianism or they succeed in replacing it with what are effectively bandits. You don’t have a lot of success stories because some wealthy capitalists see socialism as an existential threat that has to be destroyed. The entire Vietnam war, for example. That horrendous waste of life wasn’t about stopping communism as much as it was about sustaining capitalism for the very small subset of people that it actually benefits–the people who are already winning.
The point is, capitalism uses money to assess value. Not just the value of goods and services, but all value, including life and morality. There’s an overwhelming body of evidence that indicates that this results in bad outcomes for 99% of the people involved, it’s called history. Time and again, wealth siloed by the few imperils everyone, and the more things we allow them to do with that wealth, the worse the results end up being.
When people die because they can’t afford to see a doctor, a socialist sees that as a failure on the part of society to take care of itself. That’s the whole point of socialism, seeing to it that everyone’s needs are met.
The capitalist sees it as a market correction. A necessary death to preserve the wealth of someone else.
So if you want to talk about philosophy and ideology, I’m happy to. If all you’re here to do is talk about how some past regimes that were doomed from the start, or doomed thanks largely to foreign interference, we’re done.
Finally, regardless of your choice, we’re done talking about Hitler. You keep bringing him up, but it’s not really relevant to the discussion and it’s increasing my already growing suspicion that you’re one of the rancorous folks who have been coming around and intentionally causing conflict. BB leans pretty far left, so if you can’t leave well enough alone, perhaps it’s not the community for you. I’ve got my suspicions about your buddy Loudoun_Hillbilly as well.
