Of course, for some of us, clothing is useful protection against being judged by/for our bodies…
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Sharing just because…
Actually … I’ll buy that pretty much anywhere can be a “sexual location” for whatever that means, but that’s a very selective option. Your extension that nudity does not equal sexual applies here, even in the more mundane locations. While some of us may view, for instance, the shower, as an acceptable location for sexual activity with our partner(s) this does not mean that every time we enter the shower area, we’re intending to have sex.
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I never had to take showers in school and I grew up in the boiling hot south. We just slapped on more deodorant after PE. We had showers but only the sports teams used them after practice.
We did have to change in and out of our PE uniforms in front of each other though, which was uncomfortable for me as I was figuring out I was attracted to other girls.
No, there have been places in the US where showeres were mandatory (NY city in the 60s and 70s for example). By the 1990s my middle school used them for storage, and in high school only the foootball and wrestling teams used them after practices.
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It’s 100% fucking creepy.
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A university I visited a friend at in Massachusetts uses similar labeling for their own gender-neutral bathrooms. Generally they had two smaller bathrooms close together that were both gender neutral, with two or three lockable stalls (and no disgusting urinals), as well as a lock on the main door and a sign that advised people they could lock the door if they wanted more privacy.
I know a place that has the little stick figures doing the peepee dance on the signs.
I particularly enjoyed the self-referential closing statement.
Please vote for the man who regrets not having lied in order to peek at naked girls.
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California high schools don’t let you just say “I feel like being trans and using the girls’ shower room today”. The precise rules are probably different at every school, but if you want the school to treat you as trans, at minimum you’re going to have to get your parents to fill out some paperwork notifying the school that you’re trans, and start being treated as trans every day.
If public high schools are as homophobic now as they were back when I was in high school (when we still had actual showers in the locker rooms, unlike today’s prudish kids), there’s absolutely no way any non-trans straight high school boy would do that, even to see naked girls, because of how the other boys and many of the girls would treat him.
And the Huckster knows that.
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I don’t think he’s saying gender identity is about sexual titillation for adolescent males, just that adolescent males would try to get away with using it as an excuse. Because they totally wouldn’t have to deal with homophobia if they claimed they were trans.
American kids these days are so prudish. When I was in high school, in the 70s, it was normal to take a shower after gym class, and any kid who didn’t would get mocked for smelling bad. The same-sex nudity just wasn’t a big deal. (Opposite-sex nudity was, in most of the country, except for some rural places with more traditional Scandinavian values for swimming in the summer.)
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… And they could avoid homophobia and deflect transphobia if they claimed they were only pretending to be trans to get in the girls’ locker room.
No one would have noticed.
Maybe he accidentally does have an indirect point in that for acceptance of gays and trans people to work, we also need to stop treating women as sex objects.
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Yeah, but somehow I don’t think that was what he meant, though. I doubt he really sees the objectification of women as a problem, as long as it’s channeled through marriage.
Really stupid comments for someone who is a perennial presidential nominee hopeful!
However bathroom selection for potential transgenders can be a confusing and embarrassing situation for many, particularly with children.
Jim
That’s your concern, momentarily wondering if you walked into the wrong restroom? Check the door icon, keep calm and carry on. It happens to many of us.
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