Number of vegans I’ve encountered who are douchebags: 1.
Number of omnivores I’ve encountered who make some variation of this douchey comment on any story about veganism: too goddamned many to count.
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Presence of a nervous system, the hardware that creates sensations of suffering, is hardly arbitrary.
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No one’s really commented on this documentary yet. I’m really looking forward to seeing it though and hoping that it’ll change some opinions and views and maybe behaviors on this subject.
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Omg yes x100
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Great - someone who, after telling you all about how they are Vegan (I think that’s a law, right?) will tell you’ll about how they are into body building (definitely a law). It’s like adding sugar to honey.
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Both the guys in that video are quite clearly on steroids, it’s not that hard to build muscle on any kind of diet when you’re manipulating the information signals in your blood-stream.
If you want to know more about steroids, check out this article: https://www.muscleforlife.com/side-effects-of-steroids/
Both of them are bigger than you can get through just eating food and working out, there’s definitely some injecting going on (or patches or gels, I don’t know how they’re applying precisely). I don’t know if they’re open about it, but I find giving off the impression to people that you can get those size without doing drugs is pretty unethical in itself.
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Number of vegans I’ve encountered who say shit like that: 0
Number of vegans I’ve encountered: 100? 125?
Number of omnivores I’ve encountered who make some variation of this douchey comment on any story about veganism: too goddamned many to count.
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I’ve always thought time since evolutionary divergence would be a good way to decide whether to eat something/body. Cyanobacteria (spirulina) diverged from Homo over 4000 million years ago, Bos (cattle) and Homo only diverged 96 MYA. On the other hand, crickets (Acheta domesticus) diverged 794 MYA. Soy diverged 1624 MYA.
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No sign of Forest Green Rovers in the trailer.
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Benjamin?
Yes, sir?
One word.
Yes, sir.
Lentils.
Yes, sir.
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also - I’m cool with any vegan diet so long as I can slather it with cheese and bacon
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well, ok, your anecdotal survey is different from my anecdotal survey, hence why we call them anecdotal.
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“I regret that I have but one like to give to your comment.”
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I think what you’re not allowing for is the possibility of having met vegans, maybe even a fair number of them, who you never knew were vegans because they never said a word about it. And thus, also the possibility that your stereotypes about them get triggered when you meet what I suspect is the rare one who’s vocal about it.
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Cool. Can’t wait to miss that.
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Finally, something we can agree on.
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I’m not convinced that is the only mechanism a cell has to detect damage.
When it comes to veganism commentators here suddenly turn into this hybrid made of liveleak and youporn regulars. Most here are on the same page when it comes to Trump, flatearthers, racism, capitalism and other “well it’s the 21st century, of course we know that’s stupid” topics. But the very moment someone suggests maybe we should not only think over our relationship towards animals but actually change it (and stop harming or using them in any way) people seem to put on that infamous red trucker hat with a distorted “make anthropocentrism great again” screaming “that’s what she said har har!” jokes.
If you truly believe in humanist values I see little chance you can blank out at animal rights and thus adopting a vegan lifestyle (which even lets you continue being a pro athlete if it floats your boat). Really, besides not hurting and killing sentinent beings it will let you continue your life as before.
Flame away.
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I’ve been vegan for 32 years. It’s become easy, something I don’t think about much. I’ve learned not to mention it to strangers because it seems to turn many people instantly defensive. Folks want to argue with me about why they eat what they eat, & seem to think I’m judging them, before I’ve said a word other than “I’m vegan.” It’s true, I often prefer to hang with other vegans, because we usually share some core values, as well as being able to share dishes. I do think the world might be a more equitable place if we all ate low on the food chain, & I respect anybody who makes an effort in that direction. It shrinks your carbon footprint drastically, & it may also be good for your health–I know it has been for me. But that’s not a choice I can make for anybody else, & definitely not something I want to argue about. I just want to eat my mac-n-cashew-cheese with a side of mizuma-avocado-pine nut salad in peace, thanks. Please pass the dark chocolate!
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The HuffPo heath section is a notoriously bad health resource, and the only two supporting resources in the article are the repeated citings of a veganism advocacy site that is never identified as such, and a single broken link to a correction to a journal article.
It may be true that the worries about the completeness of plant-based proteins are overblown, the linked article isn’t really good evidence of that fact.
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