Ocean's Ocho: an Ocean's Eleven movie with an all-woman lead cast

No, it doesn’t. But I don’t think it’s Ryder’s fault; the script and the directing were weak.

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Well, right there is where I pull the “sacrosanct” lever. I don’t think that particular piece of music is replaceable. Nor is “The Trio,” during the three-way gunfight that follows. The two of them together are basically the summary of Everything That Kicks Ass About The 20th Century Western.

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You want an older, badass, unattractive, racial-minority woman actor?

I’m not sure you get Hollywood.

I’m not saying that you’re wrong for wanting that, but none of those traits are particularly valued when casting female roles in Hollywood (not even “woman”).

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Sad, but true. Hollywood is pretty clueless.

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One of the best parts of imagining remaking this movie is that point. Yeah. Tuco is a fun and fascinating character, and imagining a female Tuco that embodies all of his charisma and distasteful qualities in a female body is great fun, and would make for a compelling character.

I mean, it’s a role that in the title doesn’t lead you to expect typical Hollywood-approved actresses. Such roles are unfairly rare, and one like this is way overdue.

Though some recent setbacks have been pretty high-profile (such as #OscarsSoWhite and the dearth of high-profile directing gigs for people other than white dudes), I still see the Hollywood culture evolving in the right direction, albeit slowly and under the radar. A lot of the creative types get it, and a lot of those that do are getting more clout in the Industry. The outdated sexist norms get called out more loudly and more frequently than they used to, and the studios are, in fact, responding. They turn on a dime about as well as the Titanic did, but they’ll get there.

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They already did a gender-swap version of “Some Like It Hot”. It was called “Connie and Carla” and it was rubbish.

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A distaff Fight Club:

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The original, pure gold. But that was the cast not the story. The last few remakes had none of the charm. I can’t imagine this being worse that the other remakes and it should probably be compared to them. But trying to re-create the personal chemistry of the Rat Pack is a feet too far. But then I don’t know the personal lives of these actors. Perhaps they share the same electric chemistry we saw in the first film which for me was what made it so much fun.

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In all fairness neither was Eli Wallach. He was a Jewish boy from Brooklyn.

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Yeah, that’s another reason why this needs to be fixed in any hypothetical remake. He was amazing in the part, but you can’t cast like that anymore. Even in the 60s there were plenty of qualified Hispanic actors who would have been just as good.

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Here’s another upcoming all-woman lead cast film, and this one’s more interesting than a reboot of a remake that’s had multiple crappy sequels.

I really liked the book, think this could be good.

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You don’t know how right you are. The Korean love letter to Leon and all things spagetti western “The Good The Bad The Weird”* had their own Ecstacy of Gold moment and the director kept the music out of the whole scene. It was clear to me that he realized anything else there would just not work.

Hell, even from an album of Morricone Remixes, the EoG track barely got touched at all:

*If you love westerns and GBU you owe it to yourself to see this film. Set in Manchuria in the late 30s it is near perfect.

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So be clear we’re talking about a spinoff of a sequel to a sequel to a remake.

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It’s such an amazing piece of music, and fits so goddamned well with the scene, even with those Star Trek end credits vocals. The way it builds with the increasingly dizzying speed of the camera (it’ll make your head spin on a big screen) makes you not mind at all that the scene is twice as long as a lesser director (with a lesser composer) would have dared make it.

Metallica love this song so much that they’ve had it played before nearly every concert they’ve played for thirty years now. Their cover of it is… well, Metallicaesque, but if nothing else shows just how bulletproof Morricone’s work can be.

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Another must: whoever plays Angel Eyes, they gotta do a prosthetic appliance to match Lee Van Cleef’s severed fingertip:

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Totally on board with an all female lead Ocean’s movie. I loved 11 and 12. I wanna see what Ocho will do. I love them as heist movies because any gadgets are all sideshows to The Plan, and 'm gonna have to go with Hannibal Smith on this one. I love it when a plan comes together.

Pls after the trainwreck that was the ghostubsters reboot’s advertising? I’m gonna support another big venture that gives women the reigns to show off that they’re just as good and deserving as any man that would normally get the part by default.

It’s Ocean, not Catwoman, they’re not going to go overboard on classless ‘look at mah tetties!’ type shticks. The franchise has historically had good camerawork, interesting scripts and flow.

This looks like something where I’ll want to grab my popcorn bag for non-snarky reasons.

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Cory is a terrible movie critic.

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the version on S&M was quite good.

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I found Ghosbusters to be enjoyable, and was really looking forward to seeing more of Dr Jillian Holtzmann.

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Oh good. I had her confused with this Aquafina.

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