Maybe it’s someone’s attempt to short-circuit his messaging.
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Some kind of metric like
( { life expectancy with the treatment } minus { life expectancy without the treatment } )
would seem reasonable
It’s the “adjusted” part that’s the problem
Don’t be “adjusting” shit, that’s eugenics
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"Sara Nelson [president of the Association of Flight Attendants] Says People Are Ready for Solidarity” [Sarah Jaffe, The Nation].
Who died on 9/11? It was front-line people and our passengers. Who suffered in the bankruptcies that followed? It was me and my friends. They took our pensions, they slashed our pay by more than 40 percent, diminished our health care, cut our jobs. They put it on our backs. For a lot of people, that meant real personal loss of our homes and cars and stressed marriages and divorces and the pain of telling our kids that they had to do without. We’ve seen this before, and we know exactly what didn’t work. We won’t stand for it again. We won’t let that happen to the rest of the country.
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When Trump says “politicizing the coronavirus”, what that really means was that people were calling him out when he said something untrue.
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Umm, no, I cant even imagine. Nononono. I would not be able to practice like that…
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Issues around resource starvation that have either arisen in other countries or are quickly becoming possible are why it’s so important to have discussions around contingency plans when these limits are reached.
There are stories out of Italy of Doctors being left to unilateral and arbitrary decisions on who lives and dies, and IMHO they should not have to bear the burden of that call - they are already going to have to live with enforcing it. No one wants to imagine the scenario of having to choose to let people die, but choosing instead to ignore the possibility or worse, stifle the conversations on them risk leaving these very same heroic caregivers on their own to make these calls.
IMHO, specific guidelines should be worked out now before it’s too late.
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Fine, but when those guidelines include things that are clearly based not on survivability but other factors commonly trotted out by eugenicists and other bigots, it’s fair to call those guidelines out for what they are, and to defend them and support them is support for those things.
One’s intellectual ability has no bearing on their ability to survive coronavirus, or indeed most transmissible diseases, but is being used in the above noted case as a reason to deny care.
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This is my point exactly. If you have never had the experience of walking a parent through the end of life decisions for their child, the intensity is off any normal chart. Now change the situation to “I only have one vent and it is not for you.” That is a burden I would not wish on anyone. The level of PTSD we will see in medical personnel after things like that will cost more of us than the virus ever could. Even considering it gives me the sweats. I said above we have to take the bedside doc out of the decision tree. If that is not done, and we have to make those decisions, we will. Up until we can’t do it any more. What comes next does not really bear thinking about too deeply.
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The BB store has jumped a whole herd of sharks with some of the recent ads.
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Absolutely, and it’s why I think more discussion is needed on this point, from every sector. This isn’t theory any more, Doctors in some countries are apparently having to, or already have, made these decisions already, and IMHO a lot more people need to be clamoring for clear guidelines before it just defaults to the shoulders of the bedside staff who are already carrying so much of the burden here.
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We got a similar letter from our landlord/rental ownership company basically saying “please don’t make this hard on your landlord” with an attached document listing “helpful resources” like soup kitchens and how to apply for SNAP benefits.
Dear Unicode Consortium, is it too late in the process to fast-track a pitchfork emoji into Unicode 13?
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Sloppy wording. After “peak deaths” people won’t start coming back to life. I think they mean the rate of deaths per day will peak. Before that, the rate of increase in deaths per day would have to go negative, which would be a welcome sign.
It would be nice to know the actual number of current infections, but right now, that’s a hidden variable.
eta: Three weeks seems optimistic. Hopefully that might be the peak for New York and other current hot spots, but other states will get their turn if social-distancing doesn’t work.
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