Paul Manafort indicted

Doesn’t matter. Earliest one I can find (even in a sneaky way) shows blank as of Oct. 18th 2016.

I’m reading about it now. He did have tweets at some point, but it’s been blank for quite a while now. Long enough it seems unlikely he deleted it in connection with this investigation. He deleted it in response to something, but we don’t know what.

Yes, it appears that he does not use his twitter. It is a mistake on mypart to have thought he ever did? I dunno, all the stories I am finding about his twitter are from sources that, well… lets say I don’t quite know them well enough to say.

I’ll take your word for it as far as archive.org, because really someone would notice if they were there and disappeared.

I guess it’s just a mistake. Oh well.

Still hope he gets indicted next.

Yeah I mean, archive.org is not infallible. It just is weird if people are claiming he had stuff up, but all the captures seem empty of content.

There could be a story there still. I haven’t gone through all the captures. There are also other twitter archive sites I would presume? The other odd thing is that there was a few posts captured in 2014, but no captures at all for 2 years.

That happened to Chelsea Manning a few weeks ago.

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Please tell me you’ll have those hats ready to ship by xmas.

I have a lot of friends on my list of “Naughty but Nice.”

Many Are Getting Arrested

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As far as I can tell, Manafort’s been mainly involved with Yanukovich (who was Putin’s puppet) and his party; then after Yanukovich was ousted in the Euromaidan revolution, he worked with Yanukovich’s former head of presidential administration, and was involved in organizing the broad-front opposition to the new government.

In other words, it sounds to me that Russian press is lying, which should not surprise anyone. Do not expect reliable Russian reporting on anything like this.

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We’re gonna need a Real Genius amount of popcorn…

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Oh, I assign as much reliability to Russian reporting as to anything Boris Johnson or Donald Trump says. I just report sometimes on what is being said.

Edit - having said that, RT has printed the indictment in full showing that the charges relate to support of Yanukovich. They have however suggested that there is no Russian connection, which seems about as likely as a very unlikely thing.

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We have another high profile pardon before charges from the same era. Carter pardoned those who evaded the draft, including hundred of thousands who had not faced formal charges.

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Kushner appears not to realise that “deleted” just means he can’t see it any more, because in the database all that has happened is that the “deleted” field in his records is now set to true and they won’t actually be purged for quite a while.
Rich kids! This is why you should actually make the effort to pay attention in classes.

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You just implied a president must be competent and honest. Because he’s president. In a discussion about Richard Nixon and Donald Trump.

More over you may want to read up on the subject. Speculation that the pardon was part of some back room deal was massive at the time. The implication of quid pro-quo was largely responsible for Ford losing the election when he sought a full term.

There are records of Nixon’s people investigating/seeking a pardon in much the same way we hear about Trump’s administration doing right now. And Bob Woodward has since claimed/reported that Al Haig proposed to Ford the exact deal Ford was accused of making (give Nixon a pardon, and he’ll resign, giving Ford an easier/cleaner path to the presidency). Only for Ford to refuse the offer, and then decide to pardon Nixon anyway much later.

Ford was appointed VP under massive pressure from Congress. His appointment largely set in stone before he’d even decided to accept it. Largely because he was squeaky clean and almost completely unconnected to Nixon. He didn’t seek either the vice presidency or the presidency. And he was an outsider to Nixon’s administration.

And yet he some how arrived at exactly the outcome the Nixon camp was actively seeking. An outcome that was the best Nixon could hope for. And convinced himself that a deeply unpopular, legally questionable, and unprecedented pardon was some how the best way for the country to move on from the massive upheaval that was Nixon.

Even if he arrived at the idea of a pardon, the timing and specific format of the pardon without influence from the numerous factions and people swirling around him. It was deeply naive to think of it as a good thing or a step in the right direction.

And that whole situation is deeply weird

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No, he deleted them in October 2016 and there were only two.

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(O).(O) Holy [explitive] [explitive]. I don’t think there’s enough popcorn for this one.

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I did not, and I need you to manage your imagination and your projections.

I will not take responsibility for your imagination.

I will go back to not interacting with you, i find your style irresponsible and offensive. Bye.

If you haven’t enjoyed it yet, have a quick read through the actual indictment. Manafort and Gates are well and truly fucked.

https://www.justice.gov/file/1007271/download

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I second that it’s worth a read. It’s even quite funny in places, though not intentionally so.

Oddly, I found the entire text on rt.com.

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BTW, it looks like Tony Podesta is leaving the whole lobbying gig as well. I wonder how many more early retirements are going to happen as a result of Mueller’s digging. Not saying there’s nothing dirty on Trump, but that his shenanigans was probably just the tip of the iceberg. I don’t think I’ll have enough popcorn to see how many GOP and DNC “professionals” are gonna get canned as a result of the investigation just for each party to cover their butts.

:smiling_imp::popcorn:

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