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The simplest explanation for why Harry Kim never got promoted is because the Voyager was a self-contained crew isolated in deep space and there wouldn’t be any opportunities for upward mobility unless some higher-ranking officer retired or died.

It’s like asking why Gilligan never got promoted.

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And yet Tom Paris got a promotion… And let’s not forget that she got him out of prison to be their pilot…

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Then a demotion, followed by another promotion, if I’m remembering correctly

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Frankly a bit problematic given that Janeway and Paris made a bunch of space salamander babies together… doesn’t Starfleet have guidelines about unilaterally promoting someone you had that kind of relationship with?

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Absolutely!

Do you think they ever reported that? :thinking:

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Probably buried in the fine print of her official report along with the “Tuvix” incident.

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What happens in the Delta Quadrant, stays in the Delta Quadrant!

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That bit made me laugh so much

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I wonder which would be more awkward; Janeway giving birth to a litter of hyperevolved space salamanders conceived with a subordinate or giving birth to a half-holographic baby?

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That did happen with some measure of regularity on the show. Maybe not retirement, but they definitely lost a few crew members over 7 season.

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True, but few were officers who outranked Harry. I think most were enlisted personnel.

https://home.strw.leidenuniv.nl/~jansen/st/voyager/casualties

Apparently Janeway had an unusually high number of spare crew members on hand just like the shuttles and photon torpedoes.

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Even (and especially) if the crew shrunk in size, all the same menial tasks would still need to get done, so promoting people wouldn’t really help anything except for making a top-heavy bureaucracy with an ever-smaller number of workers being commanded by a larger number of officers. Most of the people who died were redshirts (or equivalent) and not the bridge crew.

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I liked that they actually addressed this entrenched social inequity in the Battlestar Galactica reboot. It’s one thing to accept that you’re stuck in a lower-status job for the duration of a mission, it’s another thing entirely to realize you might not have any opportunity for advancement for the rest of your life.

At least Harry was a commissioned officer who got to work with the bridge crew. Some other poor bastard probably spent seven years cleaning the space toilets.

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There was an exchange on Lower Decks between captain Freeman and her first officer talking about how the menial tasks weren’t working to break the spirit of ensign Mariner:

Ransom: I’ve got her cleaning the [bleep] out of the holodeck’s [bleep] filter!
Freeman: [somewhat shocked] … people really use it for that?
Ransom: Oh yeah. It’s mostly for that.

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had to get rid of marquis somehow…

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https://screenrant.com/nicolas-cage-star-trek-movie-love-enterprise-hopes/

Listen, Nick, If you get that call, whatever they offer you, your answer has to be clear.

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A keeper.

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