Damn, that is BRILLIANT.
Yoink.
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They threatened children with guns.
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I’m sorry about your in laws. I agree about your views on DUI laws - when someone is dead due to the choices another person makes, I agree that they need to be held responsible.
However - the two things are entirely unrelated. These people threatened children with dangerous weapons and that could have easily spun out into there being dead children. If someone threatened my kid with a gun, I’d sure as hell hope they’d go up the river for a while. What sort of cowardice does it take to do that to a child.
I’m okay with them going to jail for quite a while, especially considering where this happened and the racial history of the area (about an hour west of ATL). At some point, we have to let people know that threatening children with guns and calling them racist names is not acceptable and that it has serious consequences. it’s about time we start taking racism seriously in this country and making choices that show that it’s not acceptable. it’s time we start taking these terroristic threats against our fellow citizens seriously, because we know historically those threats quite often ended up with dead children on the bottom of rivers.
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To be fair, the entire country has laws on the books which seek to punish, not just GA. Three strike laws were very popular for a while there in many places across the country. It’s a nation-wide problem, not just a problem with my state. I do agree it needs to change.
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Plenty of white power assholes in urban places:
The KKK, in this current incarnation is mostly rural and found in the south. Plenty of other white power groups are in urban areas, though.
And as many, many, MANY people have noted, gentrification is also white supremacy by a kinder, gentler name. Doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t also focus on the shock troops of white power.
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I did not realize you were in GA.
I say that about GA because I live in a state which does have laws focused more on rehabilitation than deterrence, and not to single GA out. You are totally correct, it’s a national problem.
I find the three-strikes laws to be ao cruel and unreasonable - and they really raise the stakes for law-enforcement as well, because an officer has to assume that he is chasing someone who is now extra-motivated to escape, pretty much all the time. The guy in the car the officer is walking up to might not turn out to be running from 6 months plus probation for a joyride, he’s running from 20 years for a third felony - and that’s a lot more dangerous a person.
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They did, and that certainly deserves a serious prison sentence. But 20 years?! Here you only get that for premeditated murder or a really brutal rape. I know US punishment standards are a lot harsher, but I keep getting shocked by how much harsher they are.
(Except rape. That often seems to result in a slap on the wrist. Also bizarre.)
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That’s good. I hope one day we can all have those sorts of laws, because they actually can do some good.[quote=“AcerPlatanoides, post:192, topic:95999”]
I find the three-strikes laws to be ao cruel and unreasonable
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I couldn’t agree more.
I’m not the only one! 
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Note that Torres got 20, but will only serve 13 in. Norton 5 inside. Note again the history of racist violence and how it’s been ignored, soft peddled, laughed about, and accepted with “boys being boys” justification (noted as far back as in the work of Ida B. Wells). Note the lives it’s ruined and how that’s been ignored. Note that people have been working against this and have lost their lives in the process. I’m all for lighter or no sentences for a whole host of “crimes” (drugs, for example). But brandishing weapons at children while telling them you will kill them isn’t one of them. This woman can’t even accept and acknowledge what she did.
The problems with the American justice system, which disproportionately impacts families of color, is an entire different questions, I think, which we can certainly start another thread on.
When it’s a white man doing the raping, yes, it usually is a slap on the wrist. A black man, usually not (although sometimes, yes - when the victim is a black woman or the man in question is an athlete about to go to a program that enjoys high status among white male consumers of sports ball).
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It’s amazing what listening to people talk about racism will help one learn…
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I hear there’s an opening for attorney general…
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