I hope they get lost and try their protest in Oakland.
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If this is the nearest we anthropoid apes can get to collectively hurling dung at an abusive tribe member we wish to expel, I’ll take it.
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Nazi - its the n-word that racists can’t abide.
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Obviously one of the organizers is a plant. They need to investigate each other carefully.
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I think they’re baiting people…
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The city actually shut down Alamo Square, fenced it off, and last I heard the assholes are looking for another venue.
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Man, all of this name calling.
What do you people have against assholes? Sure they spout an almost endless barrage of shit, but that’s their job. These racist shit bags on the other hand…
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The rally in Crissy field became a press conference in Alamo square then ultimately became a guy in a dark undisclosed hotel room being interviewed by an unnamed person on the organizer’s facebook feed.
I don’t think this was quite the day the racists had hoped for.
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I can play tuba. If anyone would like to point me to some nazis, I’ll lay it on thick.
“This is what stupid look like.”
Yeah? What are you gonna do? Attack the tuba player giving you appropriate accompaniment?
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Retreating behind a cloud of ink that he’s not a racist, and it would have been a peaceful demonstration, no violence, hates those Nazis, “Identity Evropa? What, where?”…
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There’s been a lot of whining from the alt-right in that direction.
Its almost as if all those discussion board strong men were wrong. And freedom of speech doesn’t magically shield you from the legal or social consequences of your actions. That it doesn’t require people to cheer you on, accept your ideas, allow you space to air them where ever and when ever you like. That the free speech rights of people who agree with you don’t eclipse the rights of those who disagree. And that being called an asshole isn’t somehow worse than actually being an asshole.
Who’d have thunk?
Basically as the number of people protesting against these toads have grown over the past months the alt-right is running full face into the reality that they aren’t the heroic vanguard of some hidden majority just waiting to rise. And that despite all the internet pep talks their very strange ideas about their own rights don’t change the fact that an awful lot of people aren’t down with groups that openly espouse the removal of our democracy and old school white supremacy.
So some of them are retreating to the old crypto-racist/fascist position. “Oh we’re totally not racists guys. Law and Order, Herritage etc”. While some just continue to whinge about freedom of speech they openly advocate revoking.
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Gadsd-inception.
Sorry.
I know, I’ve got to get over this habit of constantly being unfair to actual assholes - they serve a useful purpose, after all, unlike these racists.
Yeah, that’s what I like to hear. And the Berkeley event was hugely outnumbered by counter-protesters.
That’s got to be such a crushing realization for them.
It’s interesting, because even the KKK claim to not be racist these days. I saw part of some interview with a KKK guy who repeated that claim, while also saying he didn’t hate anyone, but also opining that as a white man he was superior to non-whites and would never willingly come anywhere near them, etc. I just wondered what the hell he thought racism was, if not what he was saying, unless it was some cynical but deeply stupid attempt to deny his racism purely because it’s widely seen as a bad thing, while somehow not being aware that by saying actual racist things he was giving the game away…
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Its this sort of deeply confused result of the attempted re-branding of hate groups over the last 30 years or so.
So you’ve got racism (prejudice against people due to race) and racialism (the idea that that are objectively identifiable races and provable physically rooted differences between them). Now racialism is pretty much inherent to racism, but they are two separate concepts technically. Then you’ve got white supremacy. The idea that white people are inherently better than other races, and/or should lord over those races. And white nationalism. The idea that the identifiable, totally real you guys, white race should be separated out from all the others into its own homogeneous nation.
All of these things are basically just the same ideas (which are racist) argued in slightly different ways. And they’re all hopelessly entwined and inextricable from one another. But as open racism and white supremacy became a sociopolitical no-go. These groups basically tried to re-brand themselves as some how not racist.
You focused on the racialism angle, arguing that races are totally real. And that this here is proof of all the very real differences between different sorts of people. And back paged the racism. Those differences aren’t bad and I totally don’t dislike anyone because of them. But look black people are just not as intelligent as white folk. NOT RACISM. Just the facts.
You focused on White Nationalism over White Supremacy. White people aren’t neccisarily the natural overlords of all the races and inherent superior. But white people are different and should be walled off in their own special nation, as should all the races. NOT RACIST. Just get all these brown folks out of my white nation. Let them have their own brown nation. See that’s NOT RACIST.
It was never an effective dodge. But it did give some cover, or at least an angle to demonize those calling out racists. It also evolved into the very complicated dog whistle racism we see from the GOP. And of course the theater of racists getting super offended when people call them racists. As if that were a worse offense than being racist.
But in the alt-right bubble its suddenly very cool to be openly racists and white supremacist. To just straight up be a Nazi. So you’ve got this clash between bad boy, be an out and out racist thing. And the older cynical obfuscation.
I legitimately think they just can’t keep their story straight. And a lot of it is panicked, ill thought out back pedaling after it turned out these idiots were wrong. They aren’t being celebrated and joined by masses of people who were just sick to death of not being open Nazis.
So yeah. Cynical. Also foolish to think it was ever fooling anyone. And I think increasingly panicked at the over all reaction they’re receiving. Given what I’ve seen on alt-right and white supremacist discussion boards (they’re an important thing to keep an eye on) and Reddit. I genuinely don’t think any of these idiots expected to have their rallies opposed literally 10 to 1 by counter protesters. They really seemed to believe their warmed over fantasies of race war. That with one big statement they could trigger some sort of uprising. That in the wake of Trump they could mobilize a huge number of people that secretly agreed with them all along.
I don’t think they were prepared for the sheer number of real human people who have stood against them at Charlottesville and after. Nor do I think they have the ability to contextualize the volume and tenor of the national backlash against their movement the past few weeks.
So we’re seeing confused, and inconsistent attempts to use the same old dodging techniques. The dude covered in swastikas is not a Nazi, he’s concerned about his heritage. The clan style torch procession was not a racist rally. It was about statues and history or something. But its not sticking. Much of the media isn’t accepting those as plausible and having talking heads debate it for weeks on end. Instead they’re using Alt-Right to mean what it is. Racists and Fascists. I saw a awful lot of major media coverage where the response to Alt-Right claims that the counter protesters were totes armed and violent, and Trump’s “many sides” bit, was an incredulous look followed by “No”. Frankly in the current environment they can’t seem to frame and drive the discussion the same way they used to.
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Yeah, California’s two large liberal bastions remain relatively safe places to not get assaulted by a Nazi in the streets. I’m not doing a snoopy dance yet.
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Liberal bastions are where they continue to try to get attention.
Honest question, How many klan rallies are there in Crackersburgh, CSA these days?
