I don’t know. As @TobinL mentions, it won’t make the slightest difference in the election. Even if they did get them, it’s clear that absolutely nothing would rise to the level or removal for the GOP.
On the other hand, the NYAG has a chance to make his life after a living hell. Federal charges could easily follow and he wouldn’t have someone (like himself) to pardon him.
Suddenly, the unmistakable sound of shredders firing up was heard throughout the land.
I kid. The important stuff has already been shredded.
I guess we will see, but if there’s anything the last four years of scandals that have amounted to fuck all have taught me, it’s to be more cynical about the powers-that-be protecting their own interests over anyone else’s.
“And he wouldn’t have gotten away with it if it weren’t for all those pesky Republicans.”
Once you appoint someone for life you have no hooks on them so you can’t expect loyalty. That’s about the only advantage of lifetime appointments.
True, but it’s interesting that the two Bush appointees ruled with Trump, and the two Trump appointees ruled against him.
That Clarence Thomas and Alito replaced Thurgood Marshall and Sandra Day O’Connor on the supreme court has had a major impact on the direction of this country. I hope neither will stay on the court much longer. (wishing for retirement not death)
They need to last until Inauguration Day. Beyond that let the door hit them on the ass on their way out.
Totally fair point, and I think it dovetails with why I think the Trump business empire is not going to endure. Those powers that be protecting their interests include the oligarchs with hundreds of billions of dollars to launder, and it most definitely isn’t in their interests to keep doing business with an entity that has a big fat target on its back and an SDNY prosecutor handing out subpoenas like candy.
That, combined with the utter toxicity of the Trump brand when it comes to commercial space, spells some trouble I think.
One can only hope
I think it could have. We don’t know how close it will be in the fall.
And, we don’t know how the Senate is going to tilt. His tax returns making it clear he’s a total fraud could have made a lot of Trump voters stay home, and that affects all offices in play.
edited to make conditional tense that didn’t come true
I’m sure Trump is now regretting putting him on the court… at least he got an anti-birth control vote out of him…
Surely Trump wouldn’t replace them now, given that it’s an election year. /s
I have something to say to Donnie… ahem…
RULE OF LAW, ACCOUNTABILITY OF LEADERSHIP THAT MEANS NO ONE IS OUTSIDE THE REACH OF BEING INVESTIGATED AND IRONICALLY OF ALL IN THE EYES OF CONSERVATIVES, STATES RIGHTS MOTHERFUCKER!
Go get his ass Albany.
that was me, cynically posting this same sentence here on BB every time we made a perceived gain in getting rid of him.
This is a tentative and initial impression. I don’t have the time to deep dive into the I opinions atm and this area of law isn’t in my bailiwick.
Vance is a clear loss for Trump. Mazars isn’t a loss, but it’s not a win either. Essentially in Mazars, SCOTUS has told the House “you can’t have whatever private papers of the president you want. That could lead to giving you unconstitutional levels of leverage over the president, violating separation of powers. Come up with a balanced standard. A way to give the House access to some papers and limit abuse.”
When SCOTUS gives instructions like that, it’s a clear signal to the lower courts that if the party follows the instructions, they will prevail.
Trump wanted presidential immunity. He didn’t get it. By ruling the way they did in Vance, SCOTUS is signaling a president is not immune from criminal charges while in office. This is a strengthening of existing case law (Clinton v. Jones and US v. Nixon). This is good, very very good. It goes straight against what Trump’s laywers argued. It opens the door for every state attorney general and district attorney to start digging. Well, the ones who are not GOP anyway. Given the hints the GOP is abandoning him, it’s quite likely he will spend the rest of his life fighting subpoenas. It is also an instruction to the DOJ, which has long had a policy the president is immune to criminal charges. SCOTUS is saying that policy is wrong and if the DOJ can become independent again, it can go after Trump. I think this is SCOTUS handing the career attorneys in the DOJ both hope and a path to redeeming the institution and re-establishing that the DOJ is about upholding the law, not acting as the president’s bully. I hope Trump loses and the DOJ takes that opportunity.
Finally, for now anyway, Roberts authored both opinions. I think he is clearly signaling SCOTUS is not for sale, not for money or power. Having both Trump’s appointees rule against him again is a huge blow. The fundies wanted him because they thought he could shift the court. These decisions, and some of the others this year, are showing the fundies he can’t do the thing they’ve been supporting him for. I’m hoping this leads more fundies to stay home in November.
And now I need to do my actual job.
Sort of? The way that ruling was done kicks it back to the lower courts. Providing time for Trump to be voted out, a new president to reverse course, and get that exception tossed. I’m not hopeful, but the fight on that isn’t completley lost.*
*caveat. I haven’t read that entire opinion or done any research on what experts in that area of the law think. My interpretation could be wrong.
The supreme court doesn’t care about women’s right…
Future prosecutions?
If you can look past the money laundering, political corruption, intimidation, ‘suicide’, pedo parties, racial evictions, abdication of marital oaths, abdication of oath to the country, foot spurs, unprotected sex with porn stars, daughter lust, sexual assaults, licking Vlad’s balls, indifference to journalist murders, indifference to troop bounties, demeaning the disabled, family-membership to KKK, disrespect to native Americans, hot wood for dictators, pandemic inaction AND his general psychopathic modus operandi , there isn’t much on this guy.
Not sure I would put much hope in the SDNY DAs. Please remember the Barr shuffling, termination and appointments to that district recently. It will take time, even after dRumph is bounced, for the new admin to cleanup all the shit that this admin has strewn around.
I would love to see dRumph arrested and marched to lockup on Jan 21st, just don’t think its going to happen anytime soon.
Funny, but Thomas ruled against Clinton in the Clinton v. Jones ruling of 1997. That was about a federal case, but I’d expect he regrets that precedent. I wonder what kind of mental gymnastics Thomas did to rule against Trump on this. Here’s a wikipedia quote about the unanimous decision:
Clinton v. Jones , 520 U.S. 681 (1997), was a landmark United States Supreme Court case establishing that a sitting President of the United States has no immunity from civil law litigation, in federal court, against him or her, for acts done before taking office and unrelated to the office.[1] In particular, there is no temporary immunity, so it is not required to delay all federal cases until the President leaves office.[1]
I totally agree. They didn’t rule the way they did on the contraception, leaving open that sliver of opportunity to help women, because they give a whisker for womens’ rights. They did it because the justification used by the adminstration was bullshit.
