Sheriff on suspect who killed 8 women: "yesterday was a really bad day for him"

Non-white victims? Just as likely we would have heard about crime-ridden cities and American Carnage™

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The fucking murderer had a “really bad day?!?!?!” Why does this asshole still have a job? Holy shit!

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From what I was reading yesterday, at least one of the parlors appears to be a simple massage place, not a front for sex work. We don’t actually know if the killer frequented all - or any - of these places or just saw them as a “temptation” because he assumed that about them.

Even the KKK itself literally claims not to be a racist organization these days.

Good gods, why? He just said that people assuming racism (with evidence, no less) is almost as bad as mass murder. Nuke that account from orbit and don’t look back. (Edit: Oh good, that first part seems to have happened, at least.)

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No. His job is to serve and protect the public. He has expressed more empathy for the person who committed the attack than he has for those members of the public that he is supposed to protect.

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not nuked, brief timeout as per the moderation thread.

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Because ignorance is easier to fight than hate. And because I’m supposed to pretend I never suspect anyone of ever having bad-faith here.

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Drat.

Yeah, but sometimes you just have to chalk it up as a loss and move on.

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To be fair, that was never a mission statement but a marketing slogan originally formulated for one police department that spread to others. That the first police dept. to use it was the LAPD should tell us all how much of an actual ideal it actually is in American policing.

But yes, ideally his job would be focused as much on helping and showing respect for the victims as it is on deciding whether or not the criminal is worthy of his sympathy. We don’t have to just accept the toxic state of American law enforcement (exemplified by this police captain’s statement) as “just the way things are”.

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At this point in history these behaviors have gone on long enough and the tools have existed long enough that people’s ignorance is a choice they’ve made. I grew up in a racist household. I went to a racist church and had racist teachers. But I can’t hide behind the “I am ignorant of how bad it is” excuses anymore because the only way to be such at this point in history is to choose to be. And choosing to remain ignorant is pretty much the same thing as having the hate anyway.

When you see something bad, but choose to not do anything about it or say anything about it, you’re pretty much choosing to side with the bad.

The “But they’re just ignorant” excuse time is over. It’s over. There’s no reason at this point in time with the resources we now have for anyone to “accidentally” be ignorant. At this point, it’s all a choice.

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Does the POS incel want McDonald’s or Burger King?

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I agree. But It’s against the BBS rules to assume anyone is participating in bad faith.

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I can’t do this shit today.

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Choooo-choooo here comes the Excuse Train!

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That’s fair, but I don’t assume they’re acting in bad faith. What I am doing, though, is not assuming they’re acting in good faith.

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Same. That’s why I gave them the two options.

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Sheriff is “white guy publicist”:

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I like how you said that.

I still don’t read it that way.

Here I agree in general (ie most Sheriff’s, though I’m not going to predict one in particular). But that’s more because black suspects get inappropriately de-humanized than I think this suspect is being empathized with.

I don’t know the demographics, but I suspect that it’s hard to find parlors in that area that aren’t staffed by asian women. I see no reason to assume that race is a significant motive when we have a far more obvious motive.

And after a crime has been committed the major focus of that job is catching the perpetrator.

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They are fucking terrible at that job. They catch fewer than 50% of criminals, and when you factor in the number of innocents who are caught instead, they are fucking horrendous at that job.

Dedicated investigative agencies with non-cop recruitment pathways are much, much better at it and they are still shitty.

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It’s actually pretty easy, you acknowledge the damage they caused. Here it’s compressed into “and this is what he did”. The people who died are hidden in that. The people who will spend the rest of their lives missing them are hidden in that. The family and friends who grieve, the acquaintances who will wonder that something like that should happen to them, the strangers who aren’t affected personally but now get to wonder if for instance being an Asian woman means they are next. All compressed into the single word this, while we go on about the tough time the person responsible was having. That is not balanced and does not deserve defending.

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