I disagree with the tweeter. The GOP has had enough practice with scaring people using “the libruls will come take your guns” that it will be easy to pivot to “libruls want to make babykilling legal again.”
This won’t affect anything for them.
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even there a “quick child” means 13 to 25 weeks depending on the pregnancy. that’s well later than the misissippi law they’re considering. most states put a line between 20-24 weeks i believe. so drawing on that text, alito would have to support the law as is.
he’s just pulling from obscure texts to try to stop people from calling him on his bullshit
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I found the analysis here informative if depressing.
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Maybe it’s time our elected representatives made it a protected right.
This is putting the cart before the horse. If he were to look at abortion based on income levels it exposes that it’s not really about race but income. Except then this shows how disproportionately poor black America is, which doesn’t help his argument.
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It’s pretty obvious that Kavanaugh lied during his confirmation hearings (the whole “Devil’s Triangle” thing for starters), so why wouldn’t he lie about other shit that could jeopardize his chances of joining the Supreme Court?
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“Lots of assumptions out there about which side leaked.”
it matters to the supreme court and to fox news, not to anyone else i think. the real issue is the decision itself and the consequences it has
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I’m not sure. Here in Germany, abortion is basically a non-issue these days as far as political campaigning is concerned. We don’t have Christian right-wing extremists to speak of (the right-wing AfD party, which does have a fundamentalist-Christian faction, is at 10% or so but on the downward slope), and the other parties seem to have bigger fish to fry. Even the Roman Catholic church has enough problems of its own here, with people leaving in droves, that they prefer not to rock the boat too much.
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Nope. Mainstream Dems are lit up. Is it sustainable? That remains to be seen.
As for Republicans, they are rabid dogs; how can you tell when they get excited or not?
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I think a total of 50 should be about right.
The legal podcast Amicus had a recent discussion of unenumerated rights, which some republicans at the Jackson hearings questioned, and why it’s important to protect them.
The interviewee wrote a paper that grounded the right to choose in an originalist understanding of the 14th amendment.
… The text and history of the Fourteenth Amendment, in fact, protect unenumerated fundamental rights, including rights to bodily integrity, establish a family, and reproductive liberty. The right to abortion flows logically from these fundamental rights that the Fourteenth Amendment was written to protect
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I agree that defining your own red lines is the first thing you need to do.
Overturning Roe will push abortion law from the federal level to the state level, so the second thing to do is to define for yourself how you want your state government to react. Once you’ve done this, you need to pressure your state government to act that way. If your state continues to allow legal abortion, that’s great but not enough. Your state needs to react against states that make abortion illegal (or effectively illegal). California has already been moving in this direction, but other states need to follow.
We also need to pressure corporations to 1) stop donating to state-level politicians who support abortion bans, 2) stop doing business with states that erect abortion bans, 3) stop hiring in states with abortion bans, 4) relocate offices from states that have abortion bans to ones that don’t.
I agree with others that pushing abortion law to the state level is just the first step; after the Republicans feel they have enough support, they’ll reverse their “let states decide” position and go for a federal ban on abortion. So we need to push hard to make sure they never get that support.
A few years ago, I heard an NPR interview with a historian whose specialty is the history of the Supreme Court. She said that these type of decisions by “conservative” Supreme Courts have NEVER lasted beyond a generation. So, you need to decide if you are OK with waiting a generation to get your rights back, or are you going to fight.
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Let me make this clear: since I got my very first voter registration card, I’ve voted Democrat, so I don’t need any fingers waved at me. I know what side of history I’m on, I don’t need anyone second-guessing me.
And I will say it again: in my most humble opinion, anyone who thinks this is the perfect time to say “I told you so,” to score those kind of “Internet points” off this decision, has no empathy or consideration for the women who will suffer and die from this. This is not the time for stroking one’s own ego; this is the time to get up and fight– not with each other, but against our common enemy.
Hell, I’m in menopause and I’m still terrified for all the women who will suffer and die because of this. I’m afraid for my LGBTQ+ kin, who will see their human rights stripped away with similar arguments. I fear for the people of color who will see their voting rights and civil rights endangered by these politicians, who want to roll our nation back to the days when only rich white patriarchs had all the power.
I find any distraction from that fight unwelcome, a waste of energy, and a warning that they are NOT my ally in this, if they’ll so readily turn on anyone who’s not in complete lock-step agreement with them .
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I wonder if Hawley knows who the leaker is?
Imagine if it was Clarence, trying to distract attention from Ginnie Thomas?
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Which is how it was before Roe, they could all take their wives/mistresses/daughters out of the country to get abortions. But a lot of them in the libertarian worshipping ranks are more aspirational millionaires.
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Democrats never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. “We can’t legislate even with the trifecta” is not the kind of goalpost-moving excuse I’m prepared to accept from them.
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Except what you write above is consistent with Roe and thus should not be used to overturn it.
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