I do too. But sometimes I have an irresistible compulsion to be a dick. Sorry.
I admire your friend’s stance;
I wish I could imitate it. But there’s not many elk where I live, I don’t fancy a diet of squirrel or scabby urban pigeon, and I’m not sure hunting them’s legal anyway.
Once more, I can’t resist:
When we hate then the objectified can do no right.
How many of us would take a gift from someone costumed as homeless vs wearing a tailored suit.
How many laws from drugs to sidewalk use are engineered to persecute those we dislike while excluding the superior citizens.
he is conflating the consumer with the person who raised or slaughtered the animal despite replying to my exact point that those were not the same person.
It isn’t even all that uncommon. Not to mention countless insects.
Daaaw, they’re just like puppies! You can almost hear them say “enough on the back, scritch mah belleh.”
Well, they’re both made of meat.
I disagree. I think they’re adorable. And possibly delicious, though I haven’t gotten a chance to try them yet (but in my experience, adorable animals can also be delicious animals).
Capybara do kinda look like giant guinea pigs.
How do you know they wouldn’t be willing to? I’m sure a large proportion of them would, they just choose not to. I have much better uses for my leisure time, frankly.
He should run for president!
It’s a shortcut.
You understand what vegan is, yes? And then you add “except for animals she kills herself.”
Otherwise, there would be this totally long-winded explanation about “only eats fruits and vegetables in public, but she’ll eat meat milk and eggs if she’s killed it or raised it herself”. It takes more time and is ostentatious.
Your “examples” are different, they are “I’m orange, except I’m green” “I like the darkness, as long as it is well-illuminated.” They are oppositions. Vegan has a definition of what it is – and a person who is “vegan but eats meat she has killed herself” in no way excludes the eating of fruits nuts veggies and yeast and the avoidance of meat she has not killed herself.
So – yeah, you cannot possibly be pedantic, because you are wrong.
Obnoxious, yes.
Is cooking unfertilized egg really killing? I mean, I know vegans won’t eat eggs, but I’m not even sure unfertilized chicken eggs are alive in any traditional sense of the word.
Some of the ethical vegan concepts are little hard for me to understand (milk is a big one… even if from extremely well raised goats).
I’m sure there’s been raging food-o-sophical discussion about eggs and milk for many years.
Personally I think it depends on the reason why you’re vegan that determines whether eggs count or not. There’s vegans who strictly don’t want to kill to eat. Then there’s vegans who don’t want to eat anything that exploits an animal.
Remember PETA’s “honey is slavery” campaign from a few years back? I’m sure unfertilized chicken eggs would also be considered slavery.
On the milk side of things, either the cow has to be given something like rBST to stimulate her lactation, or the BST has to be there naturally from giving birth to a calf, and harvesting her milk means depriving the calf.
No idea - I just extended the killing-ones-own-meat role to eggs and dairy, assuming there was some sort of “because others may do it unethically” clause.
FIne, I was wrong. Vegans can eat meat, as long as they kill it themselves. Someone let PETA know.
Me: It’s a white house, with brown trim.
You: So it’s not a white house, is it.
Me: Has anyone ever called you an obnoxious idiot before? Not that I am. But I wouldn’t be surprised.
NOTE: there are lots of obnoxious idiots out there. Some of them are posted about, and some of them post. Moral: obnoxious idiots shouldn’t throw stones in glass forums.
Yeah, but PETA believes all pets are slavery. Their views go way beyond what your average vegan considers sane.
I suppose if your view is that all pets are slavery and that is why you can’t eat honey and eggs (I know people who keep very pretty chickens as pets). Still, I’m not sure why people who don’t hold that all pets are slavery view wouldn’t eat an egg from a pet chicken but will own a pet dog.
And the honey thing… bees being slavery? Good lord billions of bees are dying due to pesticides we spray on vegetables. Honey harvesting if done right doesn’t kill any.
Yeah, I should have left the third-line outta there.
That is a great pic, BTW.
So if somebody kept working in captivity lives a long full life, we can call the lamb’s tail a leg?
No, wait, I’m confused, something about Our American Cousin… ?
I must admit, I thought it was just about perfect. Google image search is a wonderful thing.
For the record, I don’t think I have been called an obnoxious idiot, though I’m pretty sure I’ve been called each word separately. Also prick, dick, smartarse, arsehole, git and knob-end. In fairness, all with some justification.
PETA also (allegedly) LOOOOVES killing critters!
