Ah yes, the just following orders defense.
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Did Shaman Boy actually break anything or threaten anybody?
I guess he was carrying a spear 
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He’s vehemently anti-BLM from the video above, so maybe some hate speech or conspiracy angles?
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What gets me was his lawyer was defending him saying he was unarmed. Um, so carrying a spear into the capitol building is considered unarmed now?
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I believe that, if he isn’t drummed out of the Senate, Ted Cruz must be forced to wear the shaman’s bison headgear from now on, whenever he is on the Capitol grounds. He shall be allowed to carry the spear – but only because if he wishes to speak, he must tap it twice on the floor before doing so. I am guessing that if I send this demand to my Senators (although both Democrats) they will not take me seriously. But my firm belief is that if Ted Cruz is going to yoke himself to this dangerous buffoonery, then he shall don its trappings until the day when he no longer reports for work in the Capitol building.
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we cannot simply […] label all these people on January 6th the same
You know what? I think we can
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Insurrection is like pregnancy, you can’t be half of either.
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Yeppers. They have the ecofascists now. Bet he’s into that fad.
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Came here to say “you know, there used to be a special label for those people who sought to disenfranchise their political and ethnic enemies, not because they were die hard Third Reich ideologues, but rather because they were duped by Hitler’s dazzling charm … yadda yadda” and I feel like you got me covered.
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One of my own scariest experiences was getting caught in a college campus Halloween crowd in 1985. It was an absolute sea of people, and while I’m normally not claustrophobic, I had to fight a sense of panic. I just kind of went with the flow until I finally made it out, and then headed home the long way around.
I can’t even imagine ending up in something as fucked-up as a coup attempt. That’s something you don’t accidentally stumble into.
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A group of us nearly started a riot at a junior high (we were in high school) but somehow we avoided fisticuffs or worse (it probably helped that cops were called). The person at the center of it all was, about two years later, a defendant (and, possibly, the agent provocateur) in a Federal case against some skinheads, whom he had joined. I’d say this was off-topic but I guess it shows what can happen, even when the ringleader is a dope (which the guy most certainly was) and not really even that likable.
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I would bet that most/all of those Insurrectionists thought there would be no repercussions for their attempted coup. If they didn’t succeed, then He Who Shall Not Be Named would issue a blanket pardon.
Of course, since they didn’t succeed, they were of no further use to HWSNBN, so he threw them under the bus without a thought. Maybe, maybe this will jolt some of them back to Reality.
In the meantime, Bison Horn’s lawyer ought to speak at the upcoming hearings re: Impeachment.
ought to be tried for Sedition (at the very least), along with Josh Hawley.
Ideally, every Congresscritter that disputed the election results would be expelled via the 14th Amendment.
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The costumed QAnon cultist who invaded the Capitol says he was duped by Trump
I don’t believe for a moment that the QAnon Shaman says this. Or that he believes this.
His lawyer says this and the QAnon Shaman agrees to parrot this in a desperate attempt to save himself from prison. Someone who dresses up for as much attention as he did and then breaks into the Capitol wasn’t duped by anyone but himself.
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Came here to make the same joke! You win golf clap you win.
Here’s what that kills me about Chansley’s defense… I doubt he would have been willing to accept the reasons for his own defense from anyone else before now. There are people that, for whatever reason, try their best survive. They may have bad role models, they may find themselves in a substance abuse spiral, they may commit acts violence, and they may believe their actions are justified. These people may also sometimes find themselves unable to hear anything rational because they are trapped in an echo chamber; that sounds a lot like a gang to me. I think Chansley is an asshole and that he’s full of shit. I hope he proves me wrong, but not before seeing the inside of a jail cell.
By the time people showed up in Washinton they were of course already part of the mob. The mob had formed online way before that.
And it’s certainly possible to ‘accidentally’ stumble into such a mob. I have a friend over here who I know as a normal reasonable person. But during the first covid wave he hunkered down with youtube and now he believes covid is a plot by bill gates to sell more vaccine and maybe implant chips and 5G probably has something to do with it as well. I would never have thought he was even capable of believing such idiocy but apparently falling into a filter bubble trap 24/7 can do that to someone in just 6 weeks. Even to someone who seemed/was well balanced an normal previously.
Scary times.
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Honestly, I doubt any of them thought it through that far. They sincerely believed they were revolutionary heroes defeating a great evil. These people are so thoroughly soaked in high octane privilege blindness that it didn’t even occur to them they were doing anything inappropriate.
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