Exactly, which is why I really have difficulty classifying many bands formed after 1990 in the genre. That era was more about flash as opposed to true soul/spirit (although I’d really give bands like The Hives props for a clean, hard-hitting, proto-punk sound).
I think that whole internet surge and dot.com bubble left youth without much to truly be angry about, unless you were female, which is why I’d definitely put Bikini Kill and Sleater-Kinney in there.
I think after the recent wars, the market crashes, gamergate, and now Trump and the pinhead brigade, the youth would really have some legitimate complaints to passionately write about. I hope it’s coming.
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I fell asleep during one of their shows in Dallas…
You’re welcome.
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At >100dB noise level?!
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They were in fact that dull…
Damn.
I’ve never seen Led Zep’ in concert, but I’ve heard that depending on the venue, the were either great or sucked.
you cite the Sonics as a good indicator of where it began–and I agree–yet zero of their content was in any way political. The act of rocking out is in itself an act which disavows the dominator culture. Adopting a political viewpoint, while it could be valid, is not required for punk, since playing politics is in itself an aspect of the dominator culture.
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Some percentage of punk was political. A huge percentage of people who talk about punk but werent there think it was all political 
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It feels like you’re purposefully ignoring the first part of my statement about newer bands in the genre continuing a good sound, despite no politics.
Many bands that didn’t strive to be “in-your-face political” still wound up being political, because the movement was a reflection of society (and I’m certainly old enough to remember). Being anti- or non- is still a political stance.
Politics is like water. You can try not to be in it, but it’s still going to be in you.
Hell, even some pop music was politically driven in a benign vehicle. For example, feminist politics in pop music that weren’t intentionally designated as political at the time…
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I was in several bands that were basically about making fun of punk politics or were about “taking stands” on extremely silly things.
This band was just barely before my time but I ended up friends with most of em:
Even you were there, personally I cant stand to be told what that slice of my life was about.
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ya, guess i missed that.
going up thru the replies, I agreed with you about Rancid, though. ugh, that whole era was so tainted with money and label fuckery.
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Which I’d argue is a political act in and of itself.
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If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice?
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