I wasn’t even born by the time the 70’s ended, and I got it just fine. And tend to get the joke whenever its made. Its a rediculously common joke about Detroit, and fairly accurate criticism of the US car industry. Or did you miss the part about SUVS? A market segment that didn’t get popular/common until the 1990’s. And has (along with oversize pickup trucks) largely replaced the full sized sedan as the default car in the US.
Its pretty simple. Detroit = US automakers. US cars are boring and stodgy. Ergo Tim Caine is a Dodge Neon in mid 90’s teal.
American cars still, today, have a global reputation for being poorly-built bad-handling archaic behemoths. See any episode of Top Gear featuring American cars for a demonstration.
You can argue that the perception is inaccurate if you want, but it’s still a perception that very much exists.
That’s one of the things she’s taking for granted, but shouldn’t be. Because we’ve been shown through recent elections that fear of the other person doesn’t get people to turn out to vote for you. This is far from a guaranteed thing.
It’s an outside chance, but it’d be pretty exciting if she did that. My fear is that she’s so deep in her Washington bubble that she fails to see why Trump is an exceptional candidate and why 2016 is different than any other election. She sees Sanders’ message as bait for way-out wingnuts and not with the core “moderate white folk” appeal that it really has. I’m afraid Trump’ll do the same thing to her that he did to the Republican party: make her underestimate him.
Statements like the one above make me really fear that the message she’s getting from all of her trusted strategists and close confidantes is that Trump isn’t a real threat. That assumption could wreck this country in the end.
Right. That said, as someone who would like to see more progressive policies enacted, I don’t believe in just shrugging our shoulders and being complacent, or saying “That’s good enough” with whatever the Democrats do either.
Once Clinton is elected, we have to keep the pressure on her to maintain a more progressive agenda, no question.
If that’s the case then why settle on republican jr. - the only rational reason I’ve seen anyone suggest so far is to pull moderate fence sitters to her camp - which as you indicate here - is impossible to do with a running mate. You do realize that the VP spot is important right? The fact that it doesn’t influence elections should be a serious reason why she could have extended an olive branch to the side of the party that is not thrilled with her already.
Well Kaine is hardly “Republican Jr.” despite what you might think. And in any case the main rule for selecting VPs is “do no harm,” meaning someone who’s a safe choice and won’t upend the ticket. That’s fine with me, whatever they have to do win (your views may differ).
The fact of the matter is that over 80% of Sanders supporters (like myself, for example) have already indicated that they’re going to vote for Clinton, and no doubt even more will come over to her side when they realize the utter danger that a President Trump poses to the world. So like it or not, that group has already been consolidated by the Clinton campaign to a pretty high degree.
Personally I trust the Clinton camp to do whatever they think they have to do to win this election, but I support putting the pressure on for a progressive agenda once she’s in office.
Relying on polling data had Mitt Romney in the white house by a landslide. With all due respect people like yourself who think that it’s in the bag need to shut up. That attitude is infectious and if Hillary runs believing that crap it’s the most likely thing that will tank her ticket.
[quote=“Daedalus, post:91, topic:82006”]My fear is that she’s so deep in her Washington bubble that she fails to see why Trump is an exceptional candidate and why 2016 is different than any other election. She sees Sanders’ message as bait for way-out wingnuts and not with the core “moderate white folk” appeal that it really has. I’m afraid Trump’ll do the same thing to her that he did to the Republican party: make her underestimate him.
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And that is why Clinton and the rest of the centre-right Democratic establishment are in serious danger of delivering the country into the control of fascists. They’re still operating under the delusion that this is a normal election.
It isn’t. If they don’t wise up to that, Trump wins.
