I can’t believe ■■■■■ is allowed to spew so many lies lies lies. It’s disgraceful and disingenuous.
Biden is trying but he sounds weak and hard to understand at times.
Disasterous.
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I want Kamala Harris up there, right now, rebutting.
I admit things are not going strongly for B even though the man is in full possession of the real facts.
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None of this is supporting that Trump should be President to anyone. That he’s more energetic is besides the point. So is a rabid dog.
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Oh gods, I hope so…
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What the hell is up with Trump’s hair? He looks like Moe.
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to B:
Black unemployment, Black families, Black mother mortality rate, disappointment.
B:
Black unemployment now lowest in a long time.
Bringing up his/their legislation re halving Black childcare costs.
There’s more to be done. We’ve done a great deal so far.
What do you say re disappointment?
B: first-time homebuyers get 10% tax credit; student debt forgiven after 10 years if they paid up until then
T: “he caused the inflation” “it’s killing Black families” “they can’t buy groceries anymore” “he causes inflation” “I gave him a country with no inflation, it was perfect” and oh ah yes, immigrants are taking Black jobs
B: “he decimated the economy, that’s why there was no inflation, the economy was flat” “this guy wants to get rid of the ACA”
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More closer to
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I’m voting against Trump because I love my life and there are people here I want to watch live so much I don’t mind if some assholes somewhere also go on living.
I don’t care about the debate. No one my age I know or younger is watching it either fwiw.
I don’t trust them anyway, personally. Not after the last couple.
I would vote for a lump of cat shit over Trump though.
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Global heating
You vowed to end climate initiatives:
T: derails to police and how police orgs support him; “superpredators”
… claims success re opportunity zones and the “biggest beneficiaries are Blacks” “he’s done a horrible jobs for Black people” “millions of people pouring into our country”
Question re-asked
T: “I want clean water; I want clean air” “I had the best environmental numbers ever”
B: “I came up with $15M for HBCUs” and points out T’s withdrawal from Paris Peace Accord
T: “I didn’t want us to waste that money” “it was a ripoff” “I’m the one who got the insulin down” ok it’s immigrants again, apparently he is saying “they” are destroying “everything”
B: back to Paris Accord, which B got U.S. back into; U.S. pollution to be halved by 2025 and—they cut his mic–
ETA: strikethrough correction added
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This format is horrible for Biden. I agree @j9c that Harris would be doing 1000% better here. 
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There is a non-zero chance that T will be overconfident for Debate #2 and thus could screw up badly closer to election day–the timing is important–but it would take a big change from what I am seeing right now.
Biden now stumbling less, verbally, but is still not projecting voice-wise. Man I feel for the dude.
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Yeah, I hear there’s a pattern of the incumbent president losing the first debate, then winning the election. 
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B is getting is moxie back.
B is on the attack. He is definitely getting bogged down is policy details though. Damn. He’s right and he’s not so telegenic.
T now claiming he’s one of the best presidents after B said 50+ historians say T is the worst.
T claiming tax-cuts made “the money flow back into our country.”
B is zeroing in on T’s tariffs proposal. “You have had the largest deficit in American history.”
ETA:
Fentanyl
T: derails to the deficit without talking about the opioid; is calling Biden a Manchurian candidate. I doubt he even knows that that means. Now he’s talking about B having the largest deficit. “China is going to own us” “you’re destroying our country”
Q is re-asked
T: “we were doing well until COVID” “drugs pouring in across the border” now attributing human trafficking and drug trafficking to B
B: actually answering question; bi-partisan bill re drug detection… blames T for stopping the bill
T is re-asked about Fentanyl; now T is talking about Mexico, talking about “a hostage” and $6B ransom… “I will have that reporter out” “Putin is asking for billions of dollars” ransom TOTAL DERAIL
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Not watching any more, and I notice that the comments in this thread have slowed to a crawl. Seems like others are doing the same.
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Ah yes the foolproof strategy to show you’re not too old, stumble around trying to talk about tech
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My wife noped out and fell asleep on the couch with two cats and Hallmark Christmas movies.
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I’m just listening to audio and it’s rage inducing.
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If fuckhead follows thru on the foreign relation things he says he’ll do BEFORE HES BACK IN OFFICE, won’t he be breaking (yet another) law?
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When the candidates were both asked about the age issue they ended up squabbling about Trump’s BMI and who is better at golf, and that went on much longer than it should have. Then Trump was the one to finally end it by saying “let’s not act like children.” The whole exchange was not a great moment.
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