Tonight's U.S. presidential debate: Biden v Trump

he should just ignore him. biden’s letting ■■■■■ set the playing field. :confounded:

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Oh gods, I had to just stop watching, because I feel sick. Biden sounding weak and incoherent in his rush to get information out, Trump confidently gish-galloping all over the place. Fuck, fuck, fuck. Trump’s going to win, isn’t he? I had a bad feeling about this debate, and it’s so much worse than I imagined it would be. I hope Biden rallies, but I don’t know if it matters at this point.

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Have another drink. The election is 5 months away. It can only get better.

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Are Putin’s terms acceptable to you (T)?

T: “he’s given $200 B to Ukraine” “that’s a lot of money” “I will have that war settled as president-elect before I take office”

B: “Putin is a war criminal” “he wants to re-establish the Soviet empire” “what do you think happens to those NATO country” “we give Ukraine weapons not money”

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He’s getting better. He’s got his legs under him now. Listen.

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Ok, we’re talking about Hamas and Israel.

B: “I’m the guy who organized the world against Iran” and he’s owning his support for Israel “Hamas can not be allowed to continue” “they should be eliminated”

T: derails BACK TO UKRAINE and is likening B to a Palestinian

ETA:

B: accuses T of wanting to pull us out of NATO; “he has no idea what the hell he’s talking about”

Would you support a separate Palestinian state?
T: talking about “paying” and making NATO pay; his threat at a “very secret meeting” if you don’t pay

As president you swore an oath to protect and defend the constitution, what do you say about Jan6?

T: derails

Question re-asked:
T: says Nancy Pelosi was responsible for Jan6; claims she turned down National Guard offer from T

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35 minutes in and he’s doing horribly

The major donors are going to kick his ass tomorrow

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Very, very much the same here.

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If most people listened to words, Tromp would be losing. But they care instead about an impression they get of each person’s strength and vtality, so Tromp is winning.

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Yeah, I think I’m going to have to bail. Everything about this debate is terrible and I don’t have the mental capacity to pretend otherwise.

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B: T wants to commute sentences of rioters “the only person on this stage who is a convicted felon” “the idea that those people are patriots? c’mon”

T: “you ought to be ashamed of yourself” “they took over big chunks of Seattle”

Wow, T is beyond parody and hyperbole. Sure seems to be using the word “shame” a lot. That’s telling on himself.

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I just watched a few minutes of it. I can’t watch anymore. This is bad. This is very, very bad. Biden should never have agreed to this debate. If I weren’t politically aware enough to know that every word out of Trump’s mouth was a lie, I would definitely be coming away from this debate thinking Trump is the stronger candidate. Fuck.

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utter lies uttered clearly > truth uttered with a dithering tone

at least on a sad political stage.

@#$!!! @#$!! etc -sigh-

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I had to bail, but my kiddos are still screaming at the screen. It’s just too painful and stupid to watch.

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Wait! Even kiddo one had to bail.

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Stormy said his weiner looked like Toad from the Mario games so um

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T just referred to the Justice Apartment.
T: “I did nothing wrong.”

B: “the idea is outrageous” “the idea that you have a right to retribution is wrong” “how many billions of dollars do owe re: [civil judgements]”?

T: “I didn’t have sex with a porn star” “my poll numbers went way up” “we took in hundreds of millions of dollars because the public knows it’s a scam”

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Pretty bad lies there, the BLM protests happened while 45 was president. A protester executed in Portland by alleged-police happened under 45.

Also, just now - even more projection from 45. Every accusation is a confession writ large.

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T: “he’s not equipped” “the worst presidency” “he made up the Charlottesville story” “debunked nonsense story”

B “there’s a reason why 40 out of 44 of his top cabinet members did not endorse this guy”

ETA: commercial break
man I hope Biden gets the spunk back in his funk… the time of day this debate was set is I think working against B

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For those tuning into the debate during the commercial break, this is how it went so far

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