Beau nails it again
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Bringing out the dog-megaphone again…
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Well you nailed it. How does it feel to be right?
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Irritating.
From another post in 2018:
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The fact that the triangle has been reclaimed by some anti-fascists, Mr. Bray said, does not give the Trump campaign license to use the same symbol to attack antifa.
Oh, they’re perfectly free to use it in this country. But everyone else is free to call them out for being straightup Nazis.
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and if you want to reach a lot of fascists, putting it front forward, knowing it will be called out and spread everywhere, is just good marketing
the implication though makes me wonder if they know, or are seriously worried, that they’re losing at the ballot box.
you don’t go full on nazi until you’re safe enough to, or desperate enough to.
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It’s worse than that. The first sentence has 14 words, the rest of the message from the trump team has 77 words. And ‘donald trump’ is 11 letters.
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But there’s a big caveat that Republicans will likely call out in the next day so they can call liberals whiny snowflakes:
Some people in Antifa have already adopted the red triangles to symbolize their own struggle against fascism, so it may not be a Trumpist invention at all.
I’m wondering whether this whole thing wasn’t placed by some GOP operatives as yet another kerfuffle to outrage and distract us from what’s really going on for another news cycle or two… And yet again, news media, and we, fall for it and take the bait.
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Again, consider the pink triangle as an analogy.
If Republicans used the pink triangle in an ad calling for the criminalization of LGBT people then it would be perfectly fair to say that Republicans were using the symbol in a way that echoed the Nazis.
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I agree, but the modus operandi is media manipulation and obfuscation, Bannon-style. Stir up the controversy, feed the outrage to the news media, then play BOTH sides of the issue to their benefit when it blows up.
To the “mainstream media,” they can play up the fact that it is, in fact, a symbol used by some in Antifa, call the left snowflakes who will bully poor conservatives into silence over nothing.
And to their own 4chan & 8chan race-baiting trolls, they deliver a wink and a nod.
Not sure what the best strategy is for countering this toxic BS.
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It gets worse when you realize they made 88 variants of this add and all of them the first sentence had 14 words.
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oh they know
the polls are very bad for them right now
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The context is that not only do they consider any protesters “Terrorists” they want to put them in concentration camps.
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You’d think, though, that if they want to do better in the polls and at the ballot box, they’d be reaching out to include more people, not alienate people.
(Of course, the truth is they don’t want to include everyone, and they also don’t care about the ballot box. The ballot box will just go away if they have their way, and then all the polls will just naturally show pro-fa wins.)
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I watched that. Excellent video. I thought the 88 variations and 14 words thing was a joke from commenter above. I only know what those numbers mean because I’ve seen enough news in the last 4 years about neo nazis and white supremacy to know now, which makes me fucking sad that I came to know this through news showing Trump people normalizing this stuff.
Trump though, actually did this?
At this point- if you don’t think Trump is an actual nazi (I don’t, he’s not intelligent enough to pull this subtle shit off), then you have to believe he has actual nazis or nazi sympathizers working DIRECTLY for him (I do- he definitely does- Bannon was open book, Stephen Miller too) and he’s gotta be aware of that or directly encouraging it on some level.
Historians are going to laugh at Americans and the stupid among us for a long, long time.
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I’m a bit conflicted about this, as the inverted pink triangle was reclaimed by the lgbt community, and was frequently used as a symbol (though I haven’t seen it much since the 90’s, as it’s been replaced by the rainbow flag). I also remember an inverted black triangle used by some anarchist movements around that time (I didn’t know the source, but would make sense that it was reclaimed similar to the pink triangle).
I suspect the inverted red triangle was reclaimed in a similar matter by an organization basically saying “Fuck yeah we’re socialists/communists/anarchists!”. If that is the case, than like the pink triangle, the community took a former symbol of repression, and used it to unite behind to strike against the hate.
But all in all, I’m not going to bother even stepping up on a soapbox for Trump’s hate speech, I’m just blathering on about a communities right to reclaim a hate-symbol and turn it into something empowering.
Maybe we should try that with the confederate flag… That would figuratively/literally take the wind out of the racist’s sails.
edit: yeah, this is a really dumb idea, and not the same thing at all. I just got caught up with the imagery of “figuratively/literally take the wind out of the racist’s sails” 
Some things simply cannot be saved or ‘redeemed’, and it’s a waste of time, energy and resources to even try:
That shit is permanently tainted.
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No.
The triangles were used by oppressors to mark their victims.
The confederate flag was a symbol chosen by oppressors to represent themselves.
You see where I’m getting at.
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Very good point! It’s the difference between “I claim this land for my cause” and “I claim this person for my cause” - the person can always change the message and say “fuck you, you can’t claim me!”
Very good point. I think the pink triangle was an easier symbol to revert, as very few people were aware of it, so the community itself can be educated about it’s past and why it’s reclaimed, but the world at large was no longer using it.
