It is what we’ve got.
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I think that his methods were as important as his goals.
He didn’t just bring an overtly socialist campaign within a whisker of taking the Presidency [1]; he did it without taking any corporate money.
For decades, the establishment Dems have been excusing their corruption on the grounds of “we can’t win if we don’t take their money”. Bernie proved that this is bullshit.
[1] Despite decades of establishment claims that the slightest whiff of socialism was instantly repellent to American voters.
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This would have been more appropriate:
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It’s OK,they’re getting more tolerant of irreligious behaviour:
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Bernie didn’t participate in the general. He didn’t win the nomination. He didn’t even win all that many primaries when his campaign finally broke free of the hobbles the DNC put on him. He is not evidence of success for this strategy. (Not to mention he has taken millions from PACs over his career.)
He did remarkably well, and probably could have done better with party support (and more money!), but don’t let’s exaggerate here.
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That was the one thing I have been consistently unable to figure out about this election… the relationship between Trump’s/the alt-right’s anti-semitism, Israel, the Republican party, and Prime Minister of Israel Netanyahu.
How can the alt-right be anti-semitic, anti-palestinian, pro israel, and support increased military funding for Israel all at the same time? The closest I have gotten to answering this is throwing my hands up in the air and mumbling something about crazy fuckers and special interests.What the fuck is going on here?
- A Trump administration will be far more favourable to the Jewish state, another of the president-elect’s advisers on Israel has said.
- The education minister, Naftali Bennett, who heads the hardline Jewish Home party and is seen as seeking to be prime minister one day, said the idea of a Palestinian state was now over. “Trump’s victory is an opportunity for Israel to immediately retract the notion of a Palestinian state in the centre of the country, which would hurt our security and just cause,” Bennett said. “This is the position of the president-elect … The era of a Palestinian state is over.
EDIT: WTF?!?!?!? I. DON’T. GET. IT.
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A lot of evangelicals voted for tRump too. And to an evangelical fundie, the end of the world and nuclear armageddon isn’t a bad thing. It’s the beginning of the second coming of christ. That’s an achievable and desirable goal to them.
They’re happy to help out Israel as long as they believe it’d be also helping the whole destruction of the world.
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Fuck. I always block out Christian Zionism. Probably because I would like to believe people wouldn’t be that evil and plotting.
EDIT: Whoops, just remembered Dick Cheney. He took (takes?) the cake for evil and plotting, doesn’t he? Then again, is he people?
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My parents used to be that kind of christian zionist. I don’t know how they mellowed, but they have. They don’t actively want to try and push the world over the edge anymore. But they certainly do believe all that crap in revelation. That the temple needs to be restored. That the four horsemen are already on their way. That any day now, they could get raptured up to heaven.
Honestly my atheism kills them. They believe that if the rapture happens, I’m going to be left behind. To that I say: if your god were truly loving and all powerful, why would he be so cruel as to try to make a “perfect place” without all your loved ones in it?
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I dunno. Pretty sure he actually does qualify as a cyborg. But as an aspiring cyborg myself, I hope being a cyborg doesn’t exempt me from personhood.
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“I’m literally scrambling to find a way to keep the woman who watches my epileptic child while my wife and I are at work in the country. She has lived here since she was 3, but that “unfettered immigration” as @Nobby_Stiles dubbed it means that this legal immigrant will quickly become illegal and be shipped back to South America while her entire family remains here.”
Something tells me I wrote something you disagree with. However I can’t tell what it is from what you wrote.
Feel free to highlight what it is you disagree with.
Just to be clear, up until I was 17, I was at risk of being sent back to the South American country I was born in, but which I had last lived in when I was 6 months old. This was legal but was not what I would have wanted. However those who competed with me for jobs etc might well have preferred if I was not given residency when i was 6 months old and citizenship when I was 17. They might have preferred the resources I used were used on them. Those competing with me for work etc might have preferred less competition so that wages would rise more.
Which bit do you disagree with or consider heartless ?
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in European notation the date 11.9. has also significance
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When I was preparing papers for our current mortgage some years back the (very) young woman who was the banker’s agent asked for more information about one of our savings accounts than I was prepared to give. When I asked why she needed to know she said she needed to “make sure it wasn’t mattress money.” I’m afraid I flew off the handle, and laid into her a little harder than I intended to, lecturing her on how banks in Europe stole money from Jews during the War and why we had a tradition of putting our assets into a form over which we had full control or could hide, including not only currency but also art and jewelry. I’m afraid I was a little harsh; apparently the term “mattress money” crept into bankers language in the 80s, and she couldn’t have had any idea it had any origin other than as an innocent nickname for a technical term.
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Or The Jam, singing:
"Some people might get some pleasure out of hate
Me, I’ve enough already on my plate
…
You choose your leaders and place your trust
As their lies wash you down and their promises rust
You’ll see kidney machines replaced by rockets and guns
And the public wants what the public gets
But I don’t get what this society wants…"
These braying sheep on my TV screen, indeed…
ETA: Link to the BBS mixtape thread
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I’m with you on that.
I’ll also point at The Satire Paradox (Malcolm Gladwell, Revisionist History podcast), as an interesting take on political satire, and its effect on its viewers and its targets.
So - riots and stuff. Didn’t Robocop see this all coming? This is playing out like a movie. Tear gas, no less. Tear gas.
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If this were play’d upon a stage now, I could condemn it as an improbable fiction.
– Shakespeare, Twelfth Night.
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FTFY Gryph! Have a nice trolley and thank you for the textbook 'splainin you produced for us all today.
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Don’t forget:
Obama, 2014 midterms: "Make No Mistake, My Policies Are On The Ballot This Fall"
Big GOP gains at every level
Obama, 2016: "I Will Consider It a ‘Personal Insult’ to My ‘Legacy’ If You Don’t Vote For Hillary"
Hello, President Trump.
If a clear majority of the American people felt that they were better off in 2016 than in 2008, this election would not heve been close, and this thread would not exist.
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