The whole deal with Barr and the attempt to fix the trial was to prevent a record of conviction.
Before Flynn changed his plea, he was looking at a conviction and no jail time. He’s got the same but now he dragged Barr and Sydney Powell into criminal activity as well.
There is still an issue as to whether Judge Sullivan wants to take it out of Flynn’s hide for perjury in his court.
In the event that Turnip runs for president again in 2024 (if health/aliveness allow for it), is this pardon an effective cudgel for the incumbent Dems to use?
Whoa, whoa, whoa! Wait a minute there - there’s a question you have to answer before you leap to that conclusion: are you one of Trump’s friends or minions? If so, then yes, it’s perfectly fine to lie to the FBI, as they’re anti-American thugs on a partisan witchhunt to entrap an innocent patriot. If not, then how dare you lie to the brave, patriotic FBI agents trying to keep this nation safe? You’re clearly a criminal thug who needs to go to prison without a trial, even.
The only thing that could make this wholly ridiculous QAnon phase of US history worthwhile is the reaction that those fools would have if one of the movement’s leaders came forward to claim it was Hillary.
Reminder folks: The rich and powerful are always playing a game of one-upmanship and they will never lose, they just go on about their business for better or for… Well, another job at another point in time. We aren’t even pawns, just background. And I “care”, I voted, but there will never be true justice for those that deserve it. If there was, we would see Trump and family hanging in a DC courtyard for everyone to spit kick punch etc. Fuck these motherfuckers forever.
That’s fair and was very poorly phrased and I’m going to go back and edit.
What I meant was, I never saw a need to jump in and say “man these tool posts aren’t super fun to read” let alone make rude comments.
Conversely I’ve seen people make very rude comments about Xeni, and I feel it’s because of her gender.
I’m sorry if that wasn’t clear. I have been reading this site a very long time, and I know some folks take things in the spirit intended, and some will look for every excuse to get hung up on little things. But definitely don’t mind if someone feels something is ambiguous and wants a clarification.
Edit: There’s no edit button, just a trash button. So I’ll just trash the entire thing since I probably hit send too soon.
But fuck Flynn, that part stands, and I was glad I came across news of his pardon and a discussion about how bullshit it is.
I am not a history expert but IIRC there was no ulterior motive for Ford to pardon Nixon, correct? (Both being republicans does not seem to be the same as this, but I’m re-reading some stuff on Flynn now since, to be honest, it’s been a while since I thought about him)
If that’s the case, by pardoning Flynn he’s effectively already admitted his guilt and will then be compelled to testify in any related matter or face new “obstruction/ contempt” charges. Flynn cannot keep his mouth shut.
At this point, the cult has grown so far past its origins that I think it would be dangerous for anybody to come forward ad Q. Not just dangerous to the country, but to the person!