Trump repeats claim 'both sides' share Charlottesville violence blame: Left has 'pretty bad dudes' also

He’s framing it wrong.

If antifa were conducting Weatherman style bombings, or if they were assassinating nazis, he’d have a point.

But they aren’t; they are acting as a defensive force for other anti racist protestors. Antifa did not “move to the arena of violence”; the arena of violence came to them.

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In that case they were obviously being defensive and non-violent. I’m glad you felt safer in what was essentially a defensive situation, but would you have felt safer if they turned to violence?

The moment you turn to violence, you lose any moral high ground. I also think the far right is more likely to be into serious weapons, and think that sadly your initial fear of someone opening fire on people is only a matter of time.
Forget mainstream or right wing narrative, Chomsky who is obviously on the left has a valid point. In the end it hurts their cause.

Perhaps the US should do what Germany did and make it illegal to be a Nazi or deny the Holocaust.

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It’s a gross oversimplification, but I sometimes categorize the factions fighting for equal rights in my childhood as Freedom Riders, Panthers and Deacons. The Freedom Riders showed America a choice we could make; a conscious, peaceful acceptance of the rights of people of all races. The Panthers showed what might happen if we rejected Dr. King’s dream, what racism looks like from the other side. But the Deacons for Justice and Defense kept the Riders from ending up as anonymous bodies at the bottom of Louisiana bayous.

Your post reminded me of that; my own tendencies have always put me firmly in the Deacons, but there’s no doubt in my mind that the Freedom Riders represented the best of America. It’s sad that the Panthers were probably necessary too.

Keep showing up, my friend. Numbers matter!

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This is just the latest of his weekly “keep my bigoted base in a lather” remarks.

It’s not a gaffe, it’s strategic.

He can always be relied on to say something like it when something has gone wrong (like the wheels of the Russia investigation turning another notch), or when he’s made conservatives mad (by negotiating with Democrats about DACA or the wall).

When things like that happen, “Publicly endorse Nazism!” jumps to the top of his to-do list.

But in “better” times, we can still rely on him to make some claim or other like that, pretty much on a weekly basis.

He’s like clockwork in that regard. And he knows exactly who he’s talking to there and why.

The fascist version of FDR’s Fireside Chats, basically.

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Okay, but here’s what I’ve been wondering: Is he solid or liquid?

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Does this help?
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I’m sorry, I couldn’t resist. I’ll see myself out…

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Chapman, a 41-year-old Daly City man who is free on $135,000 bail, is scheduled to return to Alameda County Superior Court on Oct. 12 for a hearing at which prosecutors are to turn over evidence in the case to his defense attorney, John Noonan.

So who put up $14K to a bail-bond company for this clown?

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I feel like we’ve reached the end of the Trump record and the needle is just riding over the same groove every 1.8 seconds.

Both sides
Both sides
Both sides
Both sides

Maybe in a few weeks somebody will remember to flip the record over.

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Here’s Kyle Chapman/Based Stickman “brandishing” his leaded stick at the rally in Berkeley.

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Holy shit I have a bacon score of 4.

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If you allow TV shows, I’ve got a 3. :slight_smile:

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The Both sides tune is such an old classic.

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Gas, obviously.

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So you’re saying he’s actually a cat?

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If you allow school plays, I’ve got a 3 too.

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No one ever thinks of the centrists. . .

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Semi-flaccidist tRump offers nohing. Film, short, at eleven.

I always roll my eyes at polarized BS. Both parties, both sexes, etc. The word “both” is a dead giveaway that most involved are framing the issue simplistically.

(Woohoo, Bacon score of 2 via Tom Savini!)

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