Trump supporter punches out old lady outside rally

I’m betting that’s everyone who was born in that area before the 1990’s. When the Grandparents and some Aunts and Uncles first moved down there from NY (in the 1990s), it was deep Hill William country. As a 9 year old I was once cursed out by a local in the supermarket in (I think) Hendersonville. Guy in his 60’s. He heard a NY accent out of a kid asking the staff about Jurassic Park trading cards and completely lost it. My grandparents lived in Saluda at the time. Its a tiny little town up the mountain from Ashville and Hendersonville. Basically looks like Southampton in the mountains these days. All art galleries and coffee shops. One of the most liberal little sections of an increasingly liberal area. When they first moved in a particular neighbor would drive buy their house twice a week. In his smoke spewing, mufflerless pickup truck. Waving a confederate flag and shouting “The South Will Rise Again!”. Until recently the area wasn’t just deeply conservative. It was deeply suspicious of and antagonistic to anything from outside the immediate area. Northerners and people from other parts of the South included.

A lot of those people are still there. The liberalizing influence comes from people moving in from liberal areas and liberal states. And while the original residents of the area, uninfluenced by that, are old. And some of them have died or relocated. It isn’t really the sort of area where people move away in retirement to save money, its the sort of area people move to in retirement to save money. So the original locals can mostly stick around.

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Would you class punching a helpless old lady with breathing difficulties a misdemeanor? I wouldn’t, If I believed in God I would pray to him that this pleb doesn’t posses any animals.

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I think generally it’s evaluated on a case by case basis and the amount of harm is the determining factor. 150 days in jail for something like this might be reasonable. 5 years not so much.

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I hope the woman files a civil suit for her medical costs related to this incident on top of whatever criminal punishment he receives. That would be one of the few times I would hope someone had been prescribed one of Shkreli’s medications during their treatment.

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Yeah, but I think that Trump has never had a good strategy for campaigning… everything you described there is something a seasoned politician, with a good team would think about… Trump, not so much… which of course reinforces his popularity among some people.

All that makes sense to me. But keep in mind, regarding the ATL/GA, at least, that it’s up for grabs, it’s looking like.

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Yeah in certain places it seems to match up. You can almost see a consistent strategy. But then there’s a rally in a place like Austin. Or speeches targeted at the black community given to white audiences in fucking rural Michigan. And you’re like whaaaaaaa?!

The current campaign staff seem to have given up on fundamentally shifting the disposition of his candidacy. Neither do they seem interested in “letting Trump be Trump” as was so often claimed. They seem to have settled for directing Trumps Trumpyness in practical, less shocking directions and trying to keep the media and public from looking too hard at the places where they can’t. It all seems very ad-hoc.

So if Trump insists on trying to “change the map” and wants to campaign in places that are pointless, Trump’s less delusional staff would make sure at least some of that push crosses over with a more sensible strategy. Even if they can’t get him to adopt that strategy wholesale.

MEANWHILE I don’t know how much of the apparent success they’re having taming Trump is down to efforts to manage the press on the campaigns front. And how much of it is just the rigors of the news cycle and the general wet fart that is horse race, false balance, link bait political journalism in this country. That Matt Lauer interview was basically the press’s massive fuck up over this election recreated in miniature.

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That tells me he grew up in a time when men were taught to be particularly polite to women, and especially older women. It makes his actions even more reprehensible, not less.

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You’re killing me here!

Also, I agree with what you said here, pretty much. Especially the stuff about Matt Lauer… how did he get to be so important in shaping our culture…

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You’re right. But it does 't make much sense that way.
I thought it was a good old right-wing type of insult along the lines of “why don’t you go back to Moscow, Ivan?”

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People think he’s nice, and for some reason The Today Show and Good Morning America are just about the top rated “news” programs the networks have.

So blame Jeff Zucker, he turned Today into what it currently is. Built the current shit show that is NBC’s news operation. And now he’s in charge of CNN. So its really about ethics in Jeff Zuckerism.

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Speaking of…yesterday Drumpfsterfire spoke at a black church in Flint, and was pretty much told to leave after about half an hour. The pastor (a woman with hands larger than Trump’s, incidentally) stopped him mid-sentence at <a href=“http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/politics/pastor-interrupts-trump-to-stop-him-from-attacking-clinton-in-church"target="_blank”>one point.

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I thought that whole thing was really odd.

I invited you here to thank us for what we’ve done in Flint, not to give a political speech.

Why would you do that?

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On TV news, they said there was a written agreement with what Trump was allowed to talk about, seems he went off-script.

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Oh I saw. I found it interesting that he was doing his standard stump speach. Rather than his “reach out to black people speech” about how black communities are built exclusively of murder, drugs, and unemployment. Funny he only characterizes black communities that way in front of white audiences…

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Yeah, I just don’t get why you’d invite him at all. Or why you’d invite anyone to thank you for what you were doing.

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I’m sure his PR people fed the church some balloneyshit about the candidate wanting to do a better job reaching out to African Americans. And the church bought it. Maybe. I don’t know.

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Truly his basket runneth over

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