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The point is that the promotion of this story here and on many other sites is self-referential and doesn’t actually reflect anything of meaningful content, and the story would never have been picked up unless the topic was trending (despite the fact that the content of those tweets overwhelmingly do not agree with the theme of the hashtag). It’s like an anti-nazi rally being reported with the headline, "Massive Nazi rally takes to the streets!"
A small group of fringe idiots using that hashtag is inconsequential, but promoting it and getting everyone to wade in just bloats its public presence. It’s exactly the kind of thing that Trump campaigners can use as fodder to illustrate reasons why anti-Trump campaigners exaggerate.
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It sounds like somebody’s pretty concerned about this.
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I am. Care to explain to me what’s wrong with that?
This particular story shows the hashtag being used, non-ironically, by some twitter users:
Likely, these users have been overtaken by those who think it’s an offensive and stupid idea. But yes, there were indeed some who used it and believe that women in the US shouldn’t have the vote.
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Hey, not in my state! We’re blue in both those pictures, and when I sat down the other night with four middle-aged hetero white men there were zero Republican votes (and also zero registered Democrats) in the room. Our enormously awesome total of three electoral votes are going to go to Secretary Clinton (although I’m voting for Jill Stein).
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You can also look at the replies to anyone using the hashtag ironically or dismissively to see how prevalent the genuine sentiment actually is. Whole lotta ugliness in there…
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These aren’t Nazis, these are supporters of a candidate for presidency of a major political party with ~43% support from the electorate. That’s significant. Nobody’s making claims about them having the huge numbers you’re pretending to argue against.
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It seemed to me that the point was this:
As usual, free publicity for the opposition, instead of support for the allies.
Saying one did not see something is not the same as claiming no such thing exists. It isn’t even the same as implying no such thing exists.
You guys are looking for a fight, chill.
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Someone complaining about an article correctly describing a phenomenon by reading things into it that aren’t present as an attempt to dismiss it entirely in an attempt to bury uncomfortable facts isn’t going to get a free pass from me. I’m not looking for a fight, but I’m not going to tolerate attempts to hide misogynist BS either.
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Well, OK. That’s not how I interpreted what was said. Perhaps I’m wrong.
It looked to me like @Abrax_23 was complaining about the way the left amplifies the voices of the worst of the right, which is a complaint I’ve made myself. It’s free publicity that primarily benefits those I’d prefer to ignore.
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Yes, that’s exactly right, and in the process gives ammunition to the very people the left opposes. Like I said before, this is exactly the kind of thing Trump campaigners can use to make a case for their critics being hysterical and exaggerating.
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Sunshine is the best disinfectant, except when it’s shining on things some would prefer nobody talk about?
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“The left” will continue to denounce the far right. Get over it.
Pretending to be concerned about your opponents’ supposedly bad decisions is a rhetorical cliche.
And you might want to be careful with your misogynistic vocabulary words in a thread about removing women’s right to vote.
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I’ve yet to be persuaded by the argument that we shouldn’t talk about people doing/saying horrible things for fear that others might talk about those pointing it out. If they lie and say it’s hysteria/exaggerating, who cares?
If it concerns you, feel free to not talk about horrible things others say, but once you start trying to shut others up, you’re telling other people to shut up and it’s going to go the way you should expect - poorly.
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You know what, you’re right. I don’t think any trump supporters actually want to repeal the 19th Amd., especially as they’ve been shown, as a whole, to have such a wholeheartedly positive outlook on women and women’s rights.
I’m not sure what in the world would’ve given me the opinion that trump supporters might want to deny women their rights (civil or otherwise), and I’m sure that Mr. trump is a Really Nice Guy that’s just completely misunderstood for all the good he wants to do.
So very very very very very very very very glad we had this conversation.
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The argument isn’t that we shouldn’t talk about horrible things others say, it’s that we shouldn’t massively exaggerate those things, because it simply plays into the hands of the very people saying those horrible things.
I know…my brother’s ex-wife is/used to be (? not sure) a Trumpette. Her FB profile pic was once a pic of her and a cardboard Trump; now it’s “Never Hillary”.
That’s a problem, too: A lot of Trump supporters automatically presume that folks who don’t like him prefer HRC, and HRC supporters automatically presume if you don’t like her, you like him. And these are people who have car payments and make them on time, pay their taxes, and love animals. On both sides.
Remember way back when other countries would take in citizens expelled from neighboring countries or those who really, really REALLY wanted to leave? They were encouraged/rewarded with tax benefits, land benefits…Canada, are you listening?
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Agreed. Since nobody was massively exaggerating, I guess we’re done here, then?
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