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My take on the 22nd amendment is that one of the reasons to propose it was a posthumous “fuck you” to FDR.
What if they repeal it as a “fuck you” to, well, the whole world?
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Yeah… They take an oath to throw themselves in front of a bullet to save whomever happens to win the next election.
That takes a very rare and specific kind of person, who is probably not one to walk off the job.
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The thought has occurred to me, too, but I’m not buying it at this point. Congresscritters aren’t as much fans of Trump as we might think. They wouldn’t replace Obamacare. They barely passed their (not his) tax cut. They won’t fund his wall, or ban Muslims or lock up Hillary. I don’t think he has authority to suspend elections-the States run their own elections. Maybe things will change, but I doubt it. As he gets more and more crazy, people will migrate AWAY from him, not TOWARD him.
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According to that my Scottish ancestors were really into klingon promotions.
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The problem is that Pence would have many more tools than a state governor has. Especially those tied to the DHS would be nightmare fuel for me personally since I’m openly an anarchist and have talked to several individuals that could easily be on the hit lists for the DHS and related organizations. Pence would see this as a great time to have a purge of leftists just as Trump’s purge via ICE for undocumented workers and naturalized citizens. And Congress would probably go along with it under the guise of “fighting terror” which would give further powers to act. Trump’s incompetence and inexperience is a boon as he thrashes about. Pence has no such inexperience with the federal system both as former governor and former representative. He would be fairly nightmarish if left alone.
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I suggest Switzerland. First of all, they have the bunkers. Secondly, they have a lot of bunkers for other people’s valuables, which other people don’t want to be glowing in the dark (but rather keep it in the dark).
However, I also suggest you’d better be a rich person. Being white also helps, but rich is a consitio sine qua non.
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I don’t believe he does. I’m reasonably sure nobody does. Not aware of any mechanism for doing so for any reason. For that to happen you’re talking about a complete breakdown of our government and the rule of law. Which, sure, is something to be concerned about. But thus far anything in serious constitutional crisis territory has either seen Trump blink, or completely fuck up. Its worth saying again. These people appear to be too stupid to be truly dangerous.
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I hope you’re right, but his approval rating isn’t grounds for optimism. Reagan was only at 44% at this point in his second term and Trump is right in line with his approval rating average over his term. Trump’s favorability rating was actually lower the week before the presidential election than his current approval rating. It doesn’t matter if the majority of people like him. It matters who turns out to vote and where they do it. http://news.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspx http://news.gallup.com/poll/189299/presidential-election-2016-key-indicators.aspx
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Things that also matter:
- The gerrymander
- Voter suppression
- Disenfranchisement
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All of those fall under who votes and where. If you don’t vote because you choose not to or you don’t vote because your racist legislature would rather not let you, it does the same thing to the vote tallies.
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Yeah.
I’m just trying to highlight the point that the problem here is not “apathetic voters”.
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As mentioned above, there is no ambiguity about it. Even if Pence grabbed the mic like Kanye and announced he was voting against conviction, everyone would ignore him and walk away. 67 - 33 is a conviction. Period. 67 - 33i (imaginary 34th vote) is still a conviction.
As for whether he would vote that way, there’s no way, no how. Elections are a crapshoot (as 2016 proved). Pick absolutely any politician in federal office. Tell them they can be President this afternoon by pushing a Staples Easy Button™. Every damn one pushes the button.
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That is a very good point. But the thing that gives me hope here is the trend line. Since his election Trump’s polls have generally trended down. Not day to day, or week to week. But along the whole stretch. The news is often taunting us with OH GOD he’s up!. Like 3 points from the last one! But if you look at the overall trend its down, and further down, and down further still. He never won by much, lost the popular by an unprecedented amount vs the electoral college. And Today he’s below that level of support.
There’s a decent chance I’m fooling myself again. But looked at across the year instead of week to week. It certainly looks like an erosion.
If there’s ever (ever) an impeachment process starting I‘ll imagine it going like this:
Impeachment starts
Trump drops bombs on shithole country
US public starts masturbating furiously on star spangled banner.
Impeachment forgotten
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I wonder if they’re sorted out the problem last year where many Secret Service agents were being screwed on pay due to overtime pay caps?
Patriotism is one thing, but a buck’s a buck!
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Why we love tyrants
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I hope you’re right.
I fear that you are not.
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Unfortunately the trend line isn’t really down. His February and March numbers were actually better than his January and December numbers. He’s within six percentage points of both his presidential high and low approval ratings. Obama had a larger fall during the equivalent period of his presidency than Trump has had. Trump’s numbers are low but stable and as low as they are they were enough to win in 2016.
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Incidents of civil war may also prevent elections although never invoked.
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