Trump's threat: 'Get rid of the ballots' — 'there won't be a transfer, frankly, there will be a continuation'

I hope his natural causes death waits til after the election, otherwise the Trumpsters will be forever going on about how they’d rather vote for a dead guy than Biden.

One. One member of the GOP. One.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-blows-up-at-gop-guv-for-rebuking-potus-outrageous-potential-refusal-to-leave-office

A reminder that TPM doesn’t do the bullshit “some scientists” and “both sides” framing on their stories.

Baker’s stinging rebuke was a departure from his GOP colleagues’ muted responses to Trump, which largely consisted of either downplaying the President’s comment, deflecting to Democrats, or simply repeating that they believed in the Constitution.

Maybe they deserve your subscription dollars more than a paper that hides this story on page 18.

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Per the paper, such a move may cause resignations among military leadership, including the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Mark Milley.

Here’s the plan, we’ll all resign so that Trump can promote generals who will help him end democracy. We all get book tours and democracy dies! Win-win!

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/report-pentagon-brass-privately-discussing-what-to-do-if-trump-invokes-insurrection-act

Meanwhile:

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Friday, September 25, 2020

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This is precisely the way it will be covered when the libs are herded into the death camps.

Atrios at 11:30

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“The history of Trump is that we have underestimated him and his venality at every turn,” he said. “We’re in a perilous time right now.”

Painfully true.

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The truly infuriating part is that a great many of us haven’t, but apparently none of us are opinion columnists, journalists or politicians.

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All we can do is resist. Look, the population can roll over like Germany did in the 1930’s and let a tyrant seize control… Or we can resist. There are way more of us than them, like was illustrated in A Bug’s Life. If we resist strategically, that is. If we just freak out and go into our holes, they win. Math is on our side. But the luxury of inaction is not.

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Let’s just remember for the record that while Germans in the 1930s may have “rolled over and let a tyrant seize control”, they certainly didn’t actively vote the tyrant into office in a general election like the Americans did in 2016 (and may still do again in 2020).

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Did we, though? The elections of 2000 and 2016 were hostile takeovers by a strongarm minority. Same could be said of Hitler. He was elected. But was it fair?

And yes, I am airbrushing German history. It was much more complex than all of this. Same as the USA, more complicated. Things are always very complicated.

The point is: we cannot roll over. We have seen what they’ll do if we let them. It will be 10x or 100x worse. Injustice will take root.

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Hitler wasn’t elected. In point of fact, the Nazi party (NSDAP) did worse in the last free general election in Weimar Germany than in the one before. (Of course once Hitler was in power he ensured that he was elected again “properly”, Belarus-style.) Hitler was installed as Reich chancellor by the Reich president, Hindenburg, based on pressure by right-leaning politicians and industrialists who thought that Hitler could be safely contained in a government which (at first) consisted mostly of non-Nazi conservatives.

(Hindenburg, who by the time was quite elderly and occupied his post mostly on the strength of his fame as a WWI hero, personally disliked Hitler intensely and would refer to him as “that Bohemian corporal” – Hitler had seen fairly undistinguished service in the German army in WWI and was actually not Bohemian but Austrian by birth; Hindenburg had probably confused the town of Braunau where Hitler was born with another town of the same name that was, in fact, situated in Bohemia.)

The problem in the US is that even according to the rules it is quite possible to become president without actually having a popular majority of voters behind oneself. This is because the rules suck; when they were invented almost 250 years ago, the world looked quite different from what it looks like now, and the rules could really do with a thorough makeover. Unfortunately the people who would have to push through that makeover are exactly the people who have most to lose from it, so the appetite for actually making the changes is understandably low. But until that happens, Americans will probably have to live with the suckage. (Incidentally, American rules suck but UK rules really suck; you can apparently become prime minister with a huge majority in parliament based on 30-something percent of the popular vote. Proportional representation is a fine thing.)

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