US dentist blamed for killing beloved lion in Zimbabwe

Smoked poacher penis is a great aphrodisiac, and gives immortality too! You need to rip it off while the poacher’s alive, conscious, and non-anesthetized, or else the effect won’t work. American big game hunter/dentist penis works too, though not as well. Tends to be a lot smaller.

Let’s spread this proto-meme around.

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He caused harm to the lion.

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In this case the lion was wounded by crossbow arrow, tracked for 40 hours and finally finished off with a gunshot. For all the misery that factory-farmed cattle are put through at least they get to die quickly.

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###Craven, The Dentist.

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I’m left with a question of who fired the shot, and that as a purist archer, perhaps he didn’t even actually kill the lion. This is not to defend, but to humiliate him.

Extradition treaties differ in their details(eg. if we want the Europeans to hand somebody over we almost always have to promise not to execute them; we won’t assist in any way if the case involves a speech act that would be protected under the 1st amendment); but they definitely do apply to citizens of the country that has one in place.

In practice, I’m sure that all those little acts of informal cooperation that make life easier are much more likely if the person being extradited is a foreign criminal or native but viewed by the public as a total scumbag, while a cherished native son might be tough going; but legally you can go after either unless the treaty specifies otherwise.

Yeah, I’m not defending this particular guy, more responding to @AcerPlatanoides’ comprehensive condemnation of hunters.

I would like to see him lose his right to practice dentistry.

Why that? Is he a bad dentist? Why should one’s off-the-job conduct affect one’s job permits?

Sigh. Put me in the same boat as I do occasionally eat other animals. That said, killing for sport and killing for sustenance (while also enjoying the ‘sport’ of doing so) are fairly distant from one another in my mind. Hunting deer, feral pigs, and similar types of game that are then dressed and eaten (or in some cases, donated to places that offer free meals) places value on the animal as food and as a life given and taken with respect. I don’t expect, although I also do not know, that Dr. trophy hunter did anything with the animals he’s killed other than skin them and take the head for a trophy–which would be absolutely ghoulish.

It’s also complicated in that Zimbabwe, not quite as a whole but fairly close to it, is damned poor:

Unemployment rate:
95% (2009 est.)
80% (2005 est.)
note: figures include unemployment and underemployment; true unemployment is unknown and, under current economic conditions, unknowable
country comparison to the world: 204

Population below poverty line:
72.3% (2012)

(CIA Factbook)

America has some enforcement of hunting laws, and I would suspect most hunters purchase the proper tags and hunt within specified seasons–while one would hope that trophy hunters in Zimbabwe (or other third-world African countries) would procure the most knowledgeable, professional guides that get the proper permits, what’s the likelihood of that really happening in such a country? Crushing poverty, endemic corruption at the lowest levels (bottom up, as opposed to America’s top-down)…it’s all well and good for westerners to decry the taking of these beautiful animals, but it’s not quite so easy as it seems.

So… don’t.

So, don’t. This isn’t about you, is it?

"The essence of true wilderness is big mammals that can eat you." 
-- Edward Abbey

I’m guessing that Vladimir Putin is impressed.

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Wow, way to turn the problem of western hunters poaching in Africa and turn the tables, blaming Zimbabwe for being so full of lovely trophys.

I’m just going to leave this conversation now.

Just like the last time.

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I don’t know about “revoking his license” but I sure wouldn’t mind if this publicity impacts his business. Every patient who pays him for a crown or a cleaning is funding his hobby, so it seems perfectly fair to let them know what their dental insurance is paying for.

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Which is precisely what his hastily-retained PR firm would have told him to say. As others have said, fuck that guy.

He paid a fine ($127,000 paid by his insurance) in 2009 to settle a sexual harassment claim made against him by a former employee. So he wasn’t a very good human being in the workplace either.

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Given the low threshold for such claims and the cost of the lawyers, it is not impossible that a false or borderline claim was made. Without knowing details I can not form a reliable opinion.

Besides, from my perspective even if true it is less important than the quality of the dental job itself. Is there any way to get the important information about the worker in question?

Why should I care about the hobbies of my doctors (or car mechanics or plumbers or whatever)? Is it relevant to the quality of their work in any way? (Except the cases where said hobbies are in some relation to the job and provide additional training/practice?)

Given the market for bush meat, I would be surprised if at least a significant percentage of such kills wasn’t salvaged to offset cost or provide additional profit.

Could be an interesting guy to have chats about many topics, ranging from hunting and traveling through weapons to dentistry.

I didn’t, mostly because my dad told me the story of how terrible he felt after he did it. I shot a lot of bottles and cans though.

You know, I’ve heard people argue that market forces can’t fix social woes (which I think is true), but it’s pretty odd to hear the argument that they SHOULDN’T be used to fix social woes, ever.

Personally, I’d rather give my money to people who make my community a better place, and who I’d want around in it. In addition, I’ve found that if people are assholes in one section of life, it rarely just stops there, and it’s usually that they can’t be trusted elsewhere, too.

At the very least, your pro-sexual harassment attitude isn’t that much of a surprise, so that’s good.

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