Vice Presidential candidates debate, 1 Oct 2024

Childcare

CBS: paid family leave: how long should employers be required to pay?

W: that’s negotiable; big companies provide paid family medical leave; Harris has made it a priority; we have it MN; those of you who don’t have it, just imagine if you get cancer? no paycheck; T is beholden to billionaires; paid leave supports families

V: (same question) brings up his wife and children; working mom; cultural pressure; “we should have a family care that makes choice possible” “let’s say you want your church to provide childcare” “you don’t get access to federal money” “unacceptable” people feel like they don’t have options

DID NOT ANSWER QUESTION

CBS: Federal Reserve says people spend as much on childcare as on housing ea month; is T committed to child tax credit?

V: we will penalize companies who ship jobs overseas, “money will be coming in”

CBS: how does this fix shortage of childcare?

V: [nonanswer]

W: issue here is the tariffs take money away from families that need to pay for childcare; will not fund; slags Wharton

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Lucifer was the most attractive of the angels.

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Vance is gaslighting us on January 6 now.

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Yup, avoiding answering the actual question “will Trump accept the election results?”.

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Democracy

CBS: there was no widespread fraud in 2020 election; Sen V, you said you would not certifiy and you would want alternative electors. Would you certify results?

V: totally sidesteps; “DT said there were problems in 2020” “we should debate those issues” is glossing over Jan6 violence; now “threat of censorship” “big technology companies being silenced” (WTAF) is now talking abt Tulsi Gabbard and RFKjr endorsements

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ETA: typo (strikethrough)

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Magic and technology

Voodoo dolls and chants

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W: “this is troubling; DT lost the election, and said he didn’t”
brings up deaths; “hang Mike Pence”; “a president’s words matter”; “to deny what happened in Jan6; this has got to stop”

V: says “Tim”; is TOTALLY GASLIGHTING w “DT peacefully gave up power”

AYFKM?

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When did Democrats protest elections? Giving in rather than fighting for the truth (Gore, H. Clinton) is not protesting.

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W: “Jan6 was not Facebook ads. That happened. Massive repercussions.” Is now calling out V.

V: You guys attack us.

W: (to V) “nonanswer!”

ETA: clarifying attribution/address

ETA2:

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I appreciate you all (especially @j9c) for doing this thread. It’s been a rough week and I just don’t have the emotional bandwidth to watch the debate.

Cat Thank You GIF

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Vance: Let the bigots speak! Let the Nazis make their arguments.

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Vance flat-out refusing to acknowledge Trump lost in 2020 and claiming anyone who calls him out for it is guilty of “censorship.” Fucking monstrous.

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W: “where is the firewall w DT if he knows he can do anything? will you keep your oath of office [Vance] [like Pence] even if DT doesn’t?”

BOOM!

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Was just typing that!

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boom GIF

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Yeah, Walz nailed it. Even though the moderators let Vance go on when it wasn’t his time.

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Walz won that exchange, especially “That is a damning non-answer.” Vance knew he was toast and tried to deflect by defending the right to spread misinformation?

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Commercial break.

Wondering just how much Peter Thiel is pushing Vance to advocate for “Big Tech” rights? Vance sure did make a lot of refs to poor poor lil ol’ Big Tech and how there’s bad censorship re Russia’s ad buy to influence presidential election.

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Uh ohs, they got their new campaign ad.

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Makes as much sense as most of their other ones.

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