Wacko Rep. Debbie Lesko (R-AZ) says she would shoot her 5 grandchildren to protect their lives

Right on. And in this particular, that’s the best case scenario. Reality is much, much worse.

Troops trained for combat situations shoot one of their own for every enemy.

An untrained civilian? Just as likely to shoot 3 grandkids and zero attackers as they are to go 1:1.

ETA: If she keeps pushing this, someone should challenge her to take the school shooting simulation challenge program like Jordan Klepper did.

“So, Debbie, how do you think you did?”

“Better than average!”

“Unfortunately, no. You managed to shoot all 5 grandkids, two police officers, your daughter-in-law, and zero bad guys.”

“So that means I got the daughter in law?” [fist pump]

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somewhat off topic, but do you have any links on the first one? the second certainly seems roughly true to me

wikipedia sez:

While acknowledging that the “statistical dimensions of the friendly fire problem have yet to be defined; reliable data are simply not available in most cases,” The Oxford Companion to American Military History estimates that between 2 percent and 2.5 percent of the casualties in America’s wars are attributable to friendly fire

for sure. even: wake her up at 3am, and then see. i can barely find my glasses let alone find, unlock, and load a gun. or confront an intruder in the dark and fire at one.

oh! that was just my kiddo who snuck out when i thought they were asleep. oops. sorry fam

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Clearly, she meant the grandchildren’s SPIRITUAL lives, not literal lives… :wink:

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Just a remembered factoid about hostage situations. Trained military and SWAT teams go about 1:1 hostages and hostile s in training exercises. That’s why they stick to negotiations for as long as possible.

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We really should stop doing that with these wingnuts. Whatever she meant, she’s still a gun humper who doesn’t give two shits about the lives of children once they come out of the womb. I’m beyond done with these assholes who are literally tearing the country apart just to “stick it to the libs.”

Meme Reaction GIF by Robert E Blackmon

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It never ceases to amaze me the lengths gun control zealots will go! They turned my speech about protecting Second Amendment rights and my right to protect my grandchildren from violent criminals into a claim I would harm my own grandchildren. Absolutely ridiculous!

She’s angry she was taken literally… (She didnt even say she “misspoke”-- she doesnt retract her original statement. We are just “interpreting” her incorrectly?)
Except how does she metaphorically “shoot her five grandchildren in order to protect them”?
(See, now I know I’m living in a simulation. There’s no way any of this actually happened.)

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nathan fillion castle GIF

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Hey, you’ve got to scramble a few eggs to make an omelet.

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It is just a case of Fully-Automatic Sophie’s Choice.

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(Except that nobody’s forcing her…)

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good one

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This is a really good summary, honestly. I think most people who are this excited about guns have spent very little time firing them, and have certainly never fired at something moving that doesn’t want to be shot. Even most gun owners seem to get most of their gun knowledge from movies and don’t understand how difficult it is to hit anything, and how easy it is for a fatal accident to happen.

I will add to your point that they wrongly evaluate risks. They think risk of home invasion is high (it’s actually incredibly rare) and they think the risk of gun accidents or suicide are low (they are actually incredibly common).

Of course, they are willfully ignorant of these risks, because they think guns are really fun and just wanna keep them. That’s the honest truth in all this. All the suffering is worth it for their hobby. I wish they’d take up model railroading instead. Nobody dies for that.

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“Grambo” :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy:

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Except, of course, support any sort of legislation that might prevent them from being shot while attending school, going to a movie or a parade, being in the grocery store, or many other common activities.

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I think most people would be willing to shoot a stranger to protect the lives of their children or grandchildren, in a clearly dangerous situation.

But this is a “gun safety” bill. It’s about protecting her and her family against the kinds of people who really shouldn’t have access to weapons.

Or is this a Freudian slip that she’s one of those people who probably shouldn’t own a gun?

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Well, there’s a long tradition on the that side of ideology: “Better dead than red,” all sorts of arguments about how it would be better for someone to be killed than to join the enemy, honor killings, that sort of thing. She could well be signalling to her supporters and grandchildren that if they get infected with the Democrat/liberal/whatever contagion, she’ll put them down like a rabid dog. Seems more likely she’s just incapable of expressing herself clearly in her native language, and needs to start thinking about what she is going to say and how she is going to say it instead of improvising.

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Could this be what she means?

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Dear Dog, is it something in the eyes?
MTG, Boebrat, and this Leach?
I know I’m casting Nasturtiums, but do they all look hypnotised?

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