In medical circles that’s what they call “The Preview”
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Cross post.
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Exactly. And exactly why argument by authority is so dangerous. It is tempting to agree with someone with credentials who agrees with you, especially if you are both wrong.
Climate change, anti-vaxx, covidiots all turn to this. And it seems to work for certain people, at least.
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Hey now, that isn’t anarchist garbage. Most of the anarchists I know spent much of the pandemic mixing hand sanitizer, sewing masks, and delivering groceries to the most vulnerable members of their community. As a general rule anarchists are remarkably civically minded people. Once a vaccine was available they were largely coordinating efforts to get people through the early hurdles and vaccinated as quickly as possible.
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I recognize that there is a self-claimed anarchist identity in the US that is pretty pro-social and that’s cool - I’m sorry to have to lump this guy in with them. Leftist anarchy has its own pros and cons but at its best it provides useful critical perspective. He is not that.
However, right-libertarianism has become something like the dystopian future of anarchy-as-practiced, in my opinion. No government control and complete personal autonomy are great when we can all agree to pass out masks and take care of each other, but - and this is a broader criticism of anarchy as a political philosophy and practical social framework option - it’s not a tool that’s available only to leftists.
Happy to hear disagreement. This comes from a lot of staring at self-proclaimed conservatives in the US and trying to figure out what their governing values actually are. Anarchy has increasingly struck me as a viable answer.
That’s definitely a funny way of spelling “fascism”…
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Fascism is a currently popular spelling of “I don’t like your politics” but it’s not a very well defined term beyond the historical context it arose out of.
They are not anarchists. By any stretch of the imagination. They just have tried to co-op the word to sound cool. You can’t advocate for fascism and STILL be an anarchist. It does not remotely fit in with the work political definitions… In other words, stop trying to make an-cap happen! And stop letting the far right dominate the debate about political reality.
It’s currently part of the political landscape (here and abroad). Trumpism fits in with the working definition of fascism, as many experts on fascism have noted (Jason Stanley, Timothy Snyder).
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As long as we’re trading citations I think the point you’re making is put more constructively by Mabel Barazin’s review in the 2019 Annual Rev of Sociology study: Fascism and Populism: Are They Useful Categories for Comparative Sociological Analysis?
“Bullshit” is a technical term these days, per Harry Frankfurt.
Have a nice day!
Fascism is a real thing that exists. It’s modern American form is Trumpism. Bury your head in the sand all you want, but it’s a fact.
Yes. I read that too when it was the new hotness a few years ago.
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This matters to me as my rights are being taken away and people plot to revoke democracy.
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Anarchists want personal autonomy for all. These people want personal autonomy for themselves, no matter whom they have to step on to be truly autonomous. Thus, they are neither anarchists, nor really libertarians (speaking of political terms that have lost all meaning). They believe in doing whatever the fuck they want, but they do not allow others to do the same where it clashes with their own beliefs. Quite simply, they do not like being told what to do, whether by the government or by the cashier at a supermarket.
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Right? This not some theoretical debate for many, many people… it’s real life. But far too many people want to debate some precise fucking definitions when the real thing is just staring them in the face. But because it does not look precisely like 1932, it’s dismissed as hysteria… Well, no. It’s not. Apparently even an actual attempted coup of our government has not been enough to wake some people up.
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Often through the vehicle of for-profit corporations, institutions that right-wing capital-L Libertarians somehow don’t think can be just as if not more tyrannical than the state.
Fascists and Libertarians are not anarchists. Their ideal societies always turn out to be feudal or manorial ones at best, usually with some genocide thrown in to weed out the “undeserving”.
Including, unfortunately, the corporate media and politicians in both parties who’ll bend over backwards not to call the 6 January putschists what they are: fascists. If one is unwilling to label them as such to begin with, one will never be able to assign proper consequences to them.
This. Playing semantic games and dictionary-ball while the sado-populists are right now trying to undermine liberal democracy and right now attacking LGBTQ people, women’s reproductive rights, and PoC does not help solve the problem.
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It’s worse than that. Most of the things they classify as “freedoms” involve the “freedom” to harm others. The word has become so perverted by the fascists even Orwell would criticize the writing for this timeline as far-fetched.
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One’s ‘right’ to swing one’s fist ends just shy of where another’s nose begins, or something like that.
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I’d have thought so, but I guess that being educated just means ones cognitive dissonance creates fancier contortions, much the way “originalist” Antonin Scalia managed to mangle logic and history in his mind such that the “original” meaning of the constitution always agreed with his preferred outcome.
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These are useful distinctions. It’s difficult to know for sure but - although I take your point about “real” libertarianism - I bet that this guy thinks of himself as one anyway, and many people like him do too. We all have strong views of what does and doesn’t count as thing I guess.
I agree this guy fundamentally believes in doing whatever the fuck he wants. And that sounds like Bakunin, etc. to me - which others disagree with no doubt. If the subject of anarchy is dear to you, I really would like to hear anarchist thought on vaccination coercion, whether in business, government, or social contexts. Cheers.
