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Somebody*'s jumped the gun on NaNoGenMo and created Journogamy
From the about page:
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were constructed by breaking up a large dataset of subreddit comments
into sentences, then pulling out all the sentences that matched
particular word or phrase searches, and then grouping the matches
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* else, since I have, too.
I found a sentiment I really agree with on there from a gater:
I still think that gamers and GamerGate (and notyourshield) already won!
Since the objective of gamergate was to get people made at Zoe Quinn and to accomplishing nothing regarding gaming ethics, it did already win. I wish theyād hang up their hats, but I guess a secondary objective is to keep people mad at Zoe Quinn.
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Yeah, but what about all the people who are discussing gamergate through tin-cans tied by long strings? Where is your data on those people? I assure you they are all very concerned about ethics in gaming journalism and show deep compassion for all people, especially women.
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Iāve been lurking the GG boards and followed the expulsion of GG from 4chan since it started.
When anyone suggested doxx or violence the place went into uproar. Iāve also seen some damning evidence that it anti-GG affiliated individuals posted fake threats against prominent anti-GGers then crowed about it - not realising that IDs were enabled and they werenāt as anonymoose as they thought - the IDs tied them directly to the threat.
KingOfPol (a prominent GG supporter) got doxxed and sent a knife in the post.
All I can see are colossal arseholes versus colossal arseholes. Screw GG, screw anti-GG, screw modern gaming. Iām off to play Chrono Trigger, then after that Kingās Quest on Atari. None of you are getting any more of my money.
The issue is that they is no anti-GG. Obviously there are some terrible people who are against GG - there are going to be terrible people associated with anything. Iām sure there are some terrible people who really donāt like the KKK. You canāt go generalizing about people who disagree with a certain group in the same way as you can about people who voluntarily associate themselves with a particular group.
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Wake me when one of the GG crowd makes the NYT, WaPo, Colbert, or Nightline to talk about the harassment theyāve received because they voluntarily aligned themselves with campaign known most prominently as an anti-women hate group.
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The new accounts are coming out of the woodwork for this subject.
Any takers on whether this is a few people with multiple accounts, or many different people?
Personally, Iād prefer to think it was a few nasty people with multiple puppet accounts than a larger number of misguided peopleā¦but i fear the latter might indeed be the case.
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Fred Phelps. He was a civil rights lawyer who fought Jim Crow laws, and got an award for it in the 1980s.
Or when theyāve involved federal authorities and put themselves at risk of a felony if it turns out they made the whole thing up. Itās reported that police and FBI have been involved in the Sarkeesian, Quinn and Wu incidents. (Or are law enforcement part of the conspiracy too?)
KingOfPol, well, he posted a photo on Twitter of a knife, and an envelope that didnāt look like it had ever been through the mail. Plus for some reason he took a photo of the sealed envelope before opening it, almost like he knew what was in it. But hey, maybe it was genuinely someone threatening him, which would definitely be unacceptable ā did he call the feds?
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Someone else brought this whole thing about projection up before. I donāt know which thread, but the story was of a micromanaging boss who basically constantly thought his employees were all stealing because he was a thief himself. The sort of person who hears about a death threat and thinks, āThey made that up to get attention,ā is a lot more likely to be the sort of person who would make up a death threat to get attention. Itās sort of like trustworthy people are often trusting and how all of those anti-homosexual preachers are gay. Though in defense of KingOfPol (and I know nothing about him or the incident) if you had an envelope with a knife in it, you might well know whatās in it (unless, I guess, it was one of those bubble wrap envelopes).
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[quote=āmathew, post:175, topic:41770ā]
maybe it was genuinely someone threatening him[/quote]
Actually, it wasnāt a threat. The package contained a note instructing him to please kill himself. That is not a threat. We canāt just assume some sort of unwritten addendum like āor do you want me to do it for you?ā If there hadnāt been a note, maybe a threat could be assumed to be implied, but when the note makes clear what the sender wants to happen (suicide), itās not accurate to call it a threat.
Edit: Itās interesting to see how readily some gaters are to read that as a threat while simultaneously dismissing clearly-worded threats against the LWs.
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Well, funny storyā¦ That KingOfPol guy has now come out and said that heās been getting a lot of threats and abuse, and that it has mostly come from GamerGate supporters.
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I wouldnāt quibble over that. I think a person would be well within their rights to call that a threat if they felt threatened by it. Iām sure most of us would. I mean, at the very least itās a sign that someone is willing to violate powerful social norms to express their wish to see you dead. Thatās not comforting.
Well, Iām not sure what he said to get the gamergate crowd to be mad at him, but Iām sure it doesnāt take much.
āKeep sending emails but remember no one here is your friend,ā is an interesting message. He certainly is a true believer in the cause.
Thinking about it some more, I think itās nit-picking to say that mailing a knife to someoneās home address and asking them to kill themselves, is not a threat because youāre only asking. Iāve no idea what, if anything, the law says on this matter though.
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Well, at the very least, I think it could be called harassment.
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[quote=āHumbabella, post:179, topic:41770ā]
I think a person would be well within their rights to call that a threat if they felt threatened by it.[/quote]
I disagree that the victimās emotional response is determinative.
[quote=āHumbabella, post:179, topic:41770ā]
Well, Iām not sure what he said to get the gamergate crowd to be mad at him, but Iām sure it doesnāt take much.[/quote]
He allegedly fabricated evidence of a conspiracy to hire an army of shills that was tasked with taking down gamergate.
In many jurisdictions, a threat is defined according to both the estimated intentions of its source, and the meaning as interpreted by the recipient. Laws tend to be coded as to not rely on specific wording. For example, if a friend told me: āIām gonna kill ya, ya SOB!ā, it would legally constitute a threat if either there was evidence that they actually intended to, or if as a consequence of what I said felt threatened. We could both laugh it off. If police overheard I could tell them that I was not threatened by the remark. Conversely, if somebody told me: āIt sure would be a shame if you had an accident tomorrow!ā, I could treat this as a legal threat despite its indirect nature, simply based upon my inference of threatening motives. Personally, I dislike statutes which are worded with so much judicial leeway. Harassment tends to be similarly subjective. If āany reasonable person might think it isā, then it is, which makes it a credibility contest - with many possible biases skewing this interpretation.
Asking somebody to kill themselves could be handled in quite a few different ways. It could be handled as a threat, or harassment, hate speech, or - that cherished catch-all - disturbing the peace, which can mean practically anything.
