Woman ejected from plane because she objected to dogs

And they love you so much, if they were able, they would eat you too. Revenge of the non-sapiens!

Good name for a Vegan band.

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I don’t think she understands the current cultural climate in the US. On the one hand, you have a a President who is anti-intellectual, and so are his supporters, many of whom are police; on the other hand you have colleges and universities that treat adjuncts and grad students like shit. Given that state of affairs, no one should expect greater respect after shouting “I’m a professor!” It’s probably not how things should be, but it’s how they are.

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But I’m allergic to cards…

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Not necessarily:

At least one of the dogs was on board as an “emotional support animal”.

I’ve seen this happen on a flight I was on, where the person in front of me refused to even keep the dog in a carrier under the seat DURING TAKEOFF because she “knew her rights”, and successfully argued and got her way with the flight attendant.

And really, I’m not trying to be able-ist here or anything, I’m sure that for a few people this might be a real need, but I’m also sure that this is abused a lot.

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What? I can get a card that says I’m allergic to cats?

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Math professor? There’s an XKCD for it!

If you ask an allergist, yes, they will document your allergies. Doctors notes are not totally worthless.

That said, all that would get her is a seat on another flight, probably without a fee, which I doubt is in her cards currently with the airline.

@moody_designer: the dogs are already on the plane, it’s already contaminated with an allergen. The only safe option is to put her on another allergen-free flight.

Exactly. Canine dander is the allergen, not canines on the pad. There are hypoallergenic breeds, as well.

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Similarly, anyone who wishes to bring a dog or other animal on a plane should have documentation from a doctor or trainer that the dog is necessary to perform particular functions for which it has been trained. Otherwise. it’s a pet and should fly by crate.

I have encountered more than one “service dog” which was apparently able to do nothing more than bark, scratch, and poop.

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sounds like a cool policy for lolipopair

One of many. You have no idea.

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In your opinion, did the passenger in question exceed that metric in any meaningful way?

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This seems like an issue that gets more attention than it deserves:

From the article:
United had 53 animals die on its flights from January 2012 through February 2017, the most recent month available, according to the Transportation Department’s Air Travel Consumer Report. That compared with a total of 136 animals that died on all flights of airlines.

So 136 total animals in five years worth of flights died en route, compared to 94 humans who died during a flight in one year alone.

From: http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20120104-travelwise-death-on-a-plane
In 2010, the company received more than 19,000 calls about in-flight medical emergencies. Of those cases, 94 people died.

I’ll grant you that there are a lot more human passengers than animal, so this isn’t a 1:1 comparison, but what I’m saying is that the dangers of the cargo hold are overstated. Animals die because they have short life spans, and just because they happen to be on a plane when it happen doesn’t mean that it’s the airlines fault. Unless they’re like, frozen or something.

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Opinions expressed regarding service dogs and owners’ apparent propensities to lie about them, or about the veracity of allergies, are a bit moot here. Southwest’s policy is pretty clear. I have my own opinions about what was happening in this woman’s brain, but suffice to say she walked right. into. this.

“Our policy states that a Customer (without a medical certificate) may be denied boarding if they report a life-threatening allergic reaction and cannot travel safely with an animal onboard. Our Flight Crew made repeated attempts to explain the situation to the Customer, however, she refused to deplane and law enforcement became involved.” [emphasis mine]

On the other hand, these enforcement dudes managed to remove her without bouncing her head off an armrest and dragging her unconscious body off the plane, so there’s that…

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I’ll need to see your arbiters certification, sir. :wink:

I doubt very much that some pet owners is anywhere near the majority of pet owners. Lets not pick and chose outliers to try to make a general point. There are always exceptions.

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Unless they are service animals, keep them out of the cabin. Too many people falsely state their animals are service animals. The ADA needs to be amended to prevent this abuse.

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nonsense if they’re small and can fit in a carrier under the seat in front of you why shouldn’t you be allowed to bring them?

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So, every card in your life is a… card against humanity?

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because someone else got something nice.

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