Woman steals package from porch, breaks her leg tripping on the lawn

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You’re right, of course, and I thought of it after the fact. I just thought it was a well-enough known quote that the quotation marks weren’t necessary. I shall mend my ways and make you proud of me.

Thank you for this.

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It depends. Many people do crimes without consideration of the harm they are doing to others, or because they wish to do harm to others. Some do it for the thrill. There’s a shoplifters subreddit where people compare their hauls and trade advice on stealing from different companies. Spend some time there and see if you really think those people deserve sympathy. I recognize that the drug war has caused all sorts of problems, and I know that the current opioid epidemic doesn’t help and causes some people to resort to crime, and I feel bad for them. I have family affected by this.

But ultimately I will always have more sympathy for the victims of crimes. In this case we see someone driving around looking for packages to steal hoping they get something good. They don’t know what they are taking, they don’t know the harm they are doing, and I’m thoroughly convinced they don’t care. It’s a lot of risk for potentially little reward. Just ask the girl who was soliciting for my local PBS channel and decided to steal the razor blades that Amazon delivered that day. She ended up in jail for taking something that was worth $11.50. That’s her own damn fault. She also lied about it when she was caught. I’ve get exactly zero shits about her. If she’d take that from me, what might she have taken from my neighbors? Someone like that can do real harm to someone, and they don’t care. She had a job, she pissed it away, and she harmed a good company’s reputation in the process. That’s not right and it’s not excusable.

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How do you figure? The way she holds her body and moves (body language) screams “I am doing something I know is wrong”. That has nothing to do with her body shape.

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I’ve had ADHD meds stolen that way.

That’s turned out okay. I just couldn’t think very well for a few weeks while the replacement got shipped. And insurance paid for the replacement.

What would have happened if they stole my grandma’s insulin though? She lives miles away from the nearest town, by herself. Package thieves are scum. Sure, it could be something neato, like a george foreman grill. Or it could be life-saving medications, or a family member’s ashes. It’s like russian roulette but you’re pointing the gun at some stranger and you have no idea whether there’s bullets in one chamber, none of the chambers or all of the chambers.

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Why not “lady”? When it’s a guy you always say "gentleman.

And the bleeding hearts will tell you that if the package is so important you should ship it to a UPS store or your office, as if that’s something that everyone can conveniently do. And oh yeah, the pharmaceutical and insurance companies are scum so it doesn’t matter if they have to eat the cost of the stolen items. See, it’s all good, right?

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At least he asked. Half of them just do it anyway.

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The discription says waddling. Exactly how isn’t that fat shaming?

Because that’s what happens when you hunch over and duck your head while walking on what may be slippery concrete.

You’re really willing to get offended on behlaf of some package stealing assholes, aren’t you?

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Come on dude are you really playing this “offended snowflake” Gambit here?
It’s totally terrain based not because of how she looks (insert sceptical face here)
Just leave the fat shaming bullshit out of it. There’s a lot to pick apart without it.

Did you actually watch the video? She waddled. Sometimes humans locomote in a duck-like fashion. It happens. Does it have to always be fat-shaming when someone points it out? Or is it only fat shaming when you notice?

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Sure, but people work here in Australia too. - but we don’t have as much of a cultural habit of leaving stuff on the porch as America does. That’s what was being asked about.

I’d be interested to know myself.

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Nope it’s only fat shaming when you bring it up. I’m. Wondering why you’re getting so upset by my post it wasn’t your op anyhow

That’s an interesting take on it. I’ve never flagged anything myself - basically because other people get there first - but I regard it as being for behaviour that’s completely out of line in a public place.

So “Yes” for strong personal abuse, with bonus points if thye throw in some racist abuse or the like, but “No” for “being wrong on the internet”.

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For my part, I believe that treating calling others on their mistakes as an intrinsically hostile action to be what leads to trenchant intransigence. If in our arrogance we’re offended by our critics, then we lose a key path by which to earn from each other.

I guess the question is this. Have you ever done anything that’s completely out of line? If so, welcome to the human condition. And wouldn’t you want your friends and allies to be willing to call you on it.

I’m not saying inveterate assholes and trolls aren’t also flaggable, just that they’re not the only behavior that is because even people who try to be good and act in good faith are occasionally assholes.

I’m fatter than this lady and I don’t waddle. She totally was.

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I think we’re fated to disagree on this one - at heart I don’t see flagging as a guide to good behaviour, but as an emergency measure to deal with something intolerable - the internet equivalent of someone shitting on your doorstep.

For a concrete example, if someone said “unemployed people are only that way because they’re lazy” I’d consider that they were a jerk, but I wouldn’t think of that as flaggable.

Drifting away from the topic, my daughter is in her mid teens now, and has started encountering the really nasty (and very flaggable) behaviour that women encounter on the net and men mostly don’t, and is very upset. We had a long heart to heart about it, discussing how to cope and avoid, and the costs and benefits, and how I as a man don’t see the net that she sees. Which is totally true, but…

I came across an article about the incredible torrents of abuse that indy game authors get from entitled trolls who are spluttering with incoherent rage that their favourite feature got nerfed, or that the author had the nerve to charge money… My God - what’s up with humans?

I showed her some of the more insane and obscene abuse, and it cheered her up a bit.

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Fair enough. You use flags more sparingly for more egregious behavior. That’s fine. No one’s obligated to flag anything they don’t want to.