Woman's $400k wedding ring found in 8 tons of garbage

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So, if someone can’t afford an expensive ring or a strong stone it means they don’t value their partner? My engagement ring cost around $150. It has a small sapphire, with a slightly bad cut, and two tiny diamonds. I love that ring. I’m not wearing it now because the band broke and I haven’t had it repaired. It meant the world to me when my husband gave me that ring. He would have bought something fancier if he could, but he was a college student. Did it matter to me that the ring wasn’t expensive? No. Did it make that ring less special when he decided he wanted to give me another, nicer ring, when we’'d been married for 7 years? No. A person’s commitment to another should not be judged by the value, stone, or metal of the ring given. Or any other material thing.

Actually, it depends on the stone and the fit of the ring. If you have small knuckles, taking off your ring to do the dishes might be wise, so it doesn’t slip off in the sink.
There are some stones that are fine to wear most of the time but are sensitive to being soaked in water for too long. Like opals. Pearls tend to be too delicate for rings, but I do know someone who has a pearl ring she wears most of the time. Pearls and water + detergent aren’t a good idea either.
Also, even hard stones like diamonds can chip or sheer if hit with something hard in just the right way. Plus the metal setting can get scratched and dented or the prongs holding the stone can be damaged. So taking rings off for heavy house work, gardening, care repair, etc. is a good idea.

As for the ring in the post… if she did the dishes with that on and didn’t take it off and thoroughly dry her hands, the skin under all that metal wouldn’t dry for a while :stuck_out_tongue:

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what @anon23281680 said there is a lot more just how fancy it is.
I don’t wear my ring in the shower cause it can easily slip off especially in the mornings. For dishes and most other things I leave it on as I am not a fancy guy and a plain band is just fine for me.
I do have to remember to take it off when throwing around the juggling clubs. I broke a sterling silver ring once from the repeated bang bang bang of the club handles and would hate to do that to a nice white gold band.

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When someone asks you to marry them, are you thinking about the life you’ll make together, or how spectacular the ring on your finger is going to be when you show it off?

As I said, there are rings to wear occasionally, which would definitely include any ring with pearls and/or opals in it, and then there’s the symbolic ring you expect to stay on your finger the vast majority of time until you die.

Wanting a ring that you KNOW you will have to take off a dozen times a day every day for the rest of your life seems like poor prioritizarion.

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I’ve never taken my wedding ring off. Ever. Not even once.
I made it myself out of cp3 titanium, and it’s beat- but (I think) in a wonderful way that shows how it’s lived.
It, for me, is the epitome of wearable jewelry.
Big, bulky, fragile rings make a poor choice to wear every day- but, like many esthetic things, just because I don’t agree or understand the choice doesn’t make it any less valid.
It’s their money; they can spend it how they please. Makes absolutely no difference to me.

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“sell ring, invest in something that can’t be lost or stolen”

like a higher education for several children, even if they aren’t my own. or financing the development of some sort or sustainable non-profit that services a community need.

Who said money can´t buy taste?

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Does anyone who can afford a rock like that actually have to wash dishes by hand?

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I refuse to believe that you believe “wealth-hate” is an actual problem, and that you think we shouldn’t feel bitter about rich people’s absurd use of capital because “maybe they did something useful with it, too”.

There’s really, honestly, and truly nothing to be gained from this supposedly non-divisive “can’t we all just get along” nonsense. When money is abolished, workers control the means of production, and political prisoners are freed, maybe I’ll take the time out of my day to feel happy for some people finding their special pebble.

To do so before the fact pretends that their wealth is innocent, when in reality it’s stained from the stolen labor used to make that ring to the intensely segregated place they make their home.

Wedding band culture?

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Skim this article: Diamonds are not a jewel of an investment.

For those who don’t want to read my boring explanation below of why diamonds and other goods are poor investments, watch this video instead…

Suffice it to say, when jewelers tell you a diamond ring is an investment, they are flat-out lying to your face. Not all will do this, I know several honest jewelers who will tell you the truth about their resale value if you ask. Sorry to burst bubbles, but people deserve to know this, especially since most of us aren’t super rich.

That depends. If it’s actually worth $400k, then it cost him a lot more than that (probably almost double). If he paid $400k, then it’s worth a lot less (probably a little more than half). It might resell a little better than some because its sheer size and cut are so unique that an estate auctioneer or jeweler could conceivably hope to get most of the wholesale markup. So he’s not only rich, he’s rich enough to throw away several hundred thousand dollars. Unless of course it’s a family heirloom, which is another possibility.

The ring is almost certainly insured against damage or theft (at least I hope it is), but it may not be insured against accidental loss. You can insure a ring for its wholesale value, but of course you’ll pay higher premiums. Buying separate ring insurance is only prudent if you spent tens (or hundreds) of thousands of dollars on the ring. Otherwise you’re better off seeing if your homeowner’s or renter’s insurance can include the value in your ring.

Banks are known to sometimes play games with paying on claims. But then no one should bank at a bank anyway (unless it’s USAA which behaves a lot more like a credit union) unless you like throwing away money. The caveat there is that the extremely cash wealthy often put most of their money into private banks but use incorporated banks for insurance and investment. The reasoning there is that most private banks are in tax shelter countries (hey, not saying its a good thing, just a financially sound decision on their part).

The Market*

Would you buy another good that was going to drop almost half its value the minute you left the store? That’s what you do when you buy a diamond (or in fact virtually any precious gemstone). That was a trick question, by the way. Almost anything other than property, certain cars and some artworks and antiques sought by collectors will depreciate precipitously. Before you blame the sellers, realize that that’s just how retail markets work. You pay the markup that allows the pipeline from the mining company to the commodities dealer to the manufacture to the wholesaler to the distributor to the retailer to make a 10% to 30% profit. In short, your paying for turning raw materials into finished goods, not for intrinsic value. This is one reason investors and investment brokers buy securities, property and certain rare valuables. They know most things are not appreciable investments. It’s also one reason why automated additive manufacturing, whether it be 3D printing in your home or a robotic factory owned by a company, are such disruptive technologies.

The Scam

But, diamonds are a special case of rip-off because they’re only mined and cut in significant quantities by a handful of cartels (De Beers being the biggest and most notorious) which artificially inflate the price above the normal mark-up percentages a healthy competitive market would allow. This is because they control the natural resource where the minerals are found (accessible diamond deposits) and hoard the vast surplus that if put on the market would lower the value. Synthetic diamonds made by chemical vapor deposition, although they’ve come a long way just in the last few years, are still hard enough to make that good ones can be more expensive than natural diamonds. Ultrasound cavitation is good for mass producing very small diamonds (this is where the diamond paste you’ll find on things like some sharpening stones often comes from). If CVD continues to get better and cheaper, it could disrupt the cartels, but it hasn’t gotten there yet.

The Alternative

My wife and I wear conventional gold wedding bands, nothing flashy. When I proposed to my wife, I had a jeweler make an engagement ring with her birth stone (still lousy resale value, but much lower base price) set in a sterling silver band. Much more sensible. Then, because I’m old-fashioned about some things, I made her an engagement gift, a Louis XVI style bed in walnut with bloodwood trim, engraved on the headboard using a large-bed CNC machine with the first poem she ever inspired me to write. Needless to say I presented the bed to her after she said yes so she wouldn’t feel undue pressure. Then we took an engagement vacation to Big Bend National Park and I made her her favorite meal for our picnic dinner. All in all, a much better use of time and money than a lousy diamond ring, IMHO.

ETA: *This is of course just basic market economics and most people here probably alreayd know it. I don’t mean to insult anyone’s intelligence. But it always surprises me how many people don’t understand why they can’t get back what they paid for things.

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Those Russians, so practical. Perhaps not have the meltdown in the first place.

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Yeah, well my husband and I thought this once. He put on some weight and now I wear his on my middle finger (nothing symbolic, it’s just that I bought so I’ll wear it if he doesn’t). I wear mine only when I leave the house because I snag my hair in my engagement ring (I sleep with my arms above my head).

@anon23281680 gave some very good reasons why someone who is washing dishes might prefer to take off the ring. I take mine off too ever since I once noticed that my prongs had loosened and the stone was spinning around. I had it fixed, but the jeweler said that the odds of me losing that stone are greater if I choose to abuse it by wearing it while I do chores.

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In our house we have our regular wear wedding bands and our “scrub the floors” wedding bands. You and @anon23281680 are absolutely right that you shouldn’t wear an engagement ring to do the chores.

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One does not put the crystal in a dishwasher! Even when the maid is out sick. Heaven forfend!

But, you’re probably right. I’m just a plebe, over here pretending I know what the fuck goes on in the minds of people with that much money. My ring is silver and cost something like $25, but it is perfect for me.

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I’m with you. My wedding band was a stainless steel bolt that @Otherbrother machined into a ring for me. (His fingers are the same size as mine so that made it easier.)

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Or 30 minutes, in this case.

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Okay maybe not a new house, but new to her, maybe? Deposit and a few years rent in a nice enough apartment?

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This happened to me… sort of! I lost my $400 ring and found it in the dumpster in about 5 minutes. When I realized it was missing I deduced that it must have come off when I pulled off a pair of rubber gloves and threw them in the trash. But when I went back that trash can had been emptied into the (thankfully small) dumpster. I was able to somewhat recall what was in that trash can, so I could narrow down which garbage bags I had to go through in the dumpster. And there was my ring, in the second garbage bag I checked, in a waded up rubber glove!

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It may not be fancy, but you’ll appreciate the higher tensile strength of the alloy if you’re ever stuck in a leaking undersea drilling rig and that ring is the only thing keeping your escape route from closing off.

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I always wanted a memory alloy band that regains its shape when warmed up. What could be more appropriate for a wedding ring? Alas, my jeweler was not on the memory alloy bandwagon when we were shopping :cry:

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