It never mattered. Whited sepulchres.
I hate to add further negativity to this, but NPR quoted some survey mentioning his approval ratings were around 39% last week. And that they’ve been fluctuated very consistently between 35% and 39% since he took office.
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I look at fivethirtyeight’s tracker which averages in a lot of polls. Obviously I can’t assume their methodology is flawless, looking at individual polls is just too misleading. Basically he came in with mid 40’s, fell off to about 40 in March, then to 38 in May. I think you could argue it looks like he’s staying put in the high 30s or that he’s very gradually falling, but I think next year we’ll have a better idea. But it’s undeniable that he’s lost support since taking office (which should hardly be surprising since pretty much every president is lower 1 year in then when they won).
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How many times did we announce his demise during the campaign, only for him to survive every time. I’m hopeful his supporters are getting antsy, but I stopped underestimating their allegiance 12 months ago.
I also live in trump’s USA, and I have zero sense that anything is changing. This election wasn’t a decision for them, it is a lifestyle.
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I dunno. It seems like it’s been essentially static since August …
… as baffling as that is.
it’s undeniable that he’s lost support since taking office
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It’s not that simple. I suspect the “women problem” is the tip of the iceberg. Ever since Bush 43, it seems like the GOP has completely lost its way. They were reactionaries all along; but forced to defend Iraq and Guantanamo and cutting off unemployment during a recession, they turned into the Party of No. For years now, they’ve stood for nothing but “whatever pisses off the liberals.” Trump doesn’t even bother to hide the fact that he has no legislative agenda beyond “undo Obama.” That leads to all kinds of absurdities. Why not defend a rapist, or a pedophile, or a thief? If it helps you get 51 votes to undo Obama, all’s fair, right?
I wonder if, as the GOP declines, the Democratic Party might end up splitting into leftist and centrist parties. We’re already halfway there. If the Republicans march into obscurity, Democrats will never tolerate one-party rule - especially if we can fight over the Sanders campaign, forever.
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You didn’t read the article. A of all), it’s discussing shifts since the election last year, so votes from a year ago don’t tell you about that. Second of B), the article is not about fewer women voting for the Republican party. It’s about fewer women showing up to run for political office as Republicans.
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They already have a right wing faction of their own, it’s just been obscured by how extremely far right the republicans are.
If the Republicans decline and the Democrats split, then I expect a realignment of the Overton Window back towards the true centre. One Social Democratic/Democratic socialist party and one socially liberal/moderate conservative party.
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He’s saying NOW they are.
The problems are the abbettors. The electoral college. The Midwest. Fox News Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, and the other dweebs in the dweebosphere. Big business who keeps giving these losers the funding they need to operate. Etc. Even as the popular majority fades, they are STILL managing to keep power by all these other means. That’s the real annoyance here.
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I hope so. Sadly the American Taliban has taken over the Republican party. The continued support for Roy Moore shows that they are not slowing down.
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Oh, they’ve tried…
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I remember someone saying that the scandals that bring people down aren’t ones that bring new damning information to light, but the ones that confirm what everyone already knew.
Yeah, to me it looks like it’s had three plateaus. The first broke with the “Obama wire-tapped me” nonsense when tentative supporters who were disappointed that he hadn’t pivoted to be more presidential realized this was it, he was a going to be the twitter war president and nothing more. The second broke with Comey’s firing when he lost a few percent of people who care about the law.
I think loss of support comes in earthquakes. We can all tell that he’s going to lose a certain block of supporters because he has done nothing to address the concerns that drove them to vote for him. But when exactly will that happen and how many supporters will he lose? Totally unpredictable.
ETA: I just saw that in a poll of whether Puerto Rico was getting enough help to recover from hurricane Maria, it’s up to 70% who say they aren’t from 62% last month. That’s the kind of stat I’m hopeful about when I think of Trump’s support eroding - more Trump supporters being willing to admit that something he was in charge of didn’t go well.
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This is exactly it. Anyone who thinks that anything Trump actually does will change his supporters’ minds is greatly overestimating their ability to act like comprehensible, relatable fellow human beings. Nothing is ever his fault. Nothing. EVER.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/08/donald-trump-johnstown-pennsylvania-supporters-215800
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I’ve been reading that Republican’s are losing women voters for the last thirty years, and yet Trump still outpolled Clinton among women. I’ll believe it when I see it.
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Working their way down to the 13th?
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More like 3rd.
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That is factually incorrect. Women as a group overwhelmingly supported Clinton over Trump, unless you think non-white women don’t count.
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