Would an armed leftist movement finally provoke sensible gun laws in America?

There is nothing in the extensive serious scholarship of the Constitution concluding that the Framers just bunged in the Second Amendment as a suicide clause for the rest of the document. It’s in there for very specific reasons driven mostly by the historical context of the time.

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Chris Rock?

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Hey, show some respect, you’re speaking to an armed member of a Well-Regulated Militia!

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The difference between the well armed Bundy standoff at the overpass and the Pipeline protest in ND are stark and have one notable difference.

I already said I support his service in the National Guard. What more could he want?

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Specific reasons, like “Violence formed this country, and violence will protect it”.

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Hey, two rounds per minute (IF you’re highly experienced) ain’t no joke!

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You just need a bear and you’re all set

Using a 200+ year old document to craft and dictate policy as if nothing has changed in the world in all that time; what could possibly go wrong?

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Bible Scholars are outraged!

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Which Framer are you quoting there?

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Everyone that signed.

This gets at an interesting point, which is that the NRA is not a “pro-gun” advocacy organization as they claim. They do not support or protect gun ownership for all of society, they support gun ownership as a pillar for maintaining white supremacy in the US. At their core they’re a pro-white patriarchy advocacy organization which uses gun control as a wedge issue.

Recognizing this, it seems clear that armed left or non-white political groups would not actually cause the NRA and the supposed “pro-gun” right to support society-wide gun control, it would cause them to support police and military suppression of leftists (armed and otherwise), while still defending the gun rights of white landowners.

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Precisely.
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A corporate-style board of 76 directors—all of whom must be fully paid lifetime members—controls the organization’s activities, primarily via the selection of executive officers.

Like any savvy organization, the NRA has instituted structural safeguards that make it tough for dissidents of any persuasion to enact sweeping changes. Only 25 of the 76 board seats turn over each year, and only those who have been members in good standing for five straight years—or are willing to pony up $1,500 for the immediate franchise that a lifetime membership buys—can vote. (The 76th member is elected on an annual basis by those who attend the annual meeting, regardless of whether or not they can vote for the 25 “regular” seats.)

Relying on older versions of the bylaws, back issues of the American Rifleman, and accounts published by NRA members and supporters, it is nonetheless possible to cobble together an idea of how things work in Fairfax. (The NRA did not respond to our attempts to verify these details, but it has included an overview of its election procedures in its members-only publications, which it states is “summarized from the NRA Bylaws.” It did not respond to our other requests for comment.) A corporate-style board of 76 directors—all of whom must be fully paid lifetime members—controls the organization’s activities, primarily via the selection of executive officers. Just as it is responsible for hiring the likes of LaPierre, Cox, and NRA president Pete Brownell, the board has the power to fire them, too.

Like any savvy organization, the NRA has instituted structural safeguards that make it tough for dissidents of any persuasion to enact sweeping changes. Only 25 of the 76 board seats turn over each year, and only those who have been members in good standing for five straight years—or are willing to pony up $1,500 for the immediate franchise that a lifetime membership buys—can vote. (The 76th member is elected on an annual basis by those who attend the annual meeting, regardless of whether or not they can vote for the 25 “regular” seats.) Ballots arrive in the February issue of the NRA’s various publications; members who opt for digital editions receive their ballots by mail.

The NRA further controls access to the ballot via its use of a “Nominating Committee,” which vets board candidates for the electorate’s convenience. The Committee, whose members are designated by the board, is composed of six individuals who are directors and three lifetime NRA members who are not. It acts as a de facto kingmaker, relying on the fact that most voters have neither the time nor the incentive to research the policy positions represented by dozens of unfamiliar names.

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Using violence gained nothing and had consequences…so why is it good again?

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Um… Wasn’t Ben Franklin famously a pacifist?

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Just more NRA prospects…Second Amendment would grow stronger.

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