Here is link to WSJ story - getting picked up everywhere now.
in other news - shit about to hit fan
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âŚand thatâs the sound of a fat old orange man going under the bus
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Hells to the yeah.
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What Iâll be very, very, interested to see is whether he can get someone to take him up on the offer:
The feds certainly arenât averse, in principle, to trading immunity for information; but they have little incentive to do so unless itâs information that they donât already have or cannot get access to. Unless Flynn has a suitably placed buddy who is looking for a convenient excuse to help him out, striking a deal is going to require having something that isnât âmy recollections about chats with Russians you were probably wiretapping the entire timeâ.
Iâm not sure which would be more interesting. If he gets a âyesâ, that suggests that he has something really juicy; but the business of knowingly letting the guilty go free isnât terribly palatable, so a âhaha, perp, we are all set, thanksâ would be more satisfying.
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Iâd prefer to see a deal along the lines of âhey, how about you tell us what you know and to what extent youâve assisted in treason, and weâll lock you up like the shitweasel you are, but maybe not for as long, since weâre assuming youâre a treasonous shitweasel anyway.â
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"Renaming my kidsâ pet canary bird General Flynn." -Richard Painter, Prof. of law at the University of MN, was the chief White House ethics lawyer for Pres. George W. Bush from '05 to '07. Currently serve as vice chairman of CREW
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Given his stated position on immunity; Iâm inclined to want him hit considerably harder for having the temerity to ask. I realize that intellectual honesty isnât in his job description; but to go from this position to requesting immunity in matters related to your own questionable communications practices is downright tacky.
At last summerâs Republican party convention, Mr Flynn led chants of âlock her upâ aimed at Hillary Clinton over her use of a private email server.
In September, he said in a TV interview that it was unacceptable that some of the Democratic candidateâs aides had been granted immunity from prosecution.
âWhen you get given immunity that means youâve probably committed a crime,â he told NBC News.
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Thatâs precious.
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Bannon and Flynn sitting in a tree k i s s i n gee, I wonder what the two have been up toâŚ
Flynn lives in the same bat shit crazy conspiracy theory tainted world as Bannon and is inclined to pick a fight with Iran and others in the ME.
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Seriously, that should be in more job descriptions.
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From the BBC News:
The lawyer said the media was awash with âunfounded allegations, outrageous claims of treason, and vicious innuendoâ.
does not sound like he is going witness to offer condeming info. Which makes the request all the more ridiculous. âIâd like immunity for telling you thereâs nothing to see here, move alongâŚâ
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As an experienced lawyer, Kelner will know that the Justice Department would never grant immunity for testimony on these terms. Prosecutors would first require that Flynn submit to whatâs called a proffer session in which Flynn would agree to tell everything he knows in exchange for the prosecutors agreeing not to use his statement against him. Only after the prosecutors heard what Flynn could offer in terms of evidence against others, and had an opportunity to assess his credibility, would they be willing to discuss any grants of immunity or a cooperation deal. At a minimum, the prosecutors would require Flynnâs lawyer to make a proffer outlining the information that Flynn could provide.
The fact that Flynn and his lawyer have made his offer publicly suggests that he has nothing good to give the prosecutors (either because he cannot incriminate others or is unwilling to do so). If he had something good, Flynn and his lawyer would approach the prosecutors quietly, go through the proffer process in confidence, and reach a deal.
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Yup. With his lawyers comments it sounds like the message is âI want immunity from my own wrong doing to tell you that nothing is up with TrumpâŚâ
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I like the way the Atlantic puts it: âBut the move could also be a purely prophylactic measure.â
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Well, just look at that.
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Flynnâs son was a Pizzagater, remember? Apples not falling far from trees, etc.
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No idea what thatâs meant to mean, but whatever.
Different take:
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Iâm reading into that the mistaken understanding that âimmunityâ just means that âcharges are dropped,â not âcharges are dropped as a quid pro quo for coming clean and ratting out your boss.â
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Given this guyâs generally paranoid politics it could be a purely political thing. I mean heâs pretty obviously perjured himself, and he does appear to have lied to federal law enforcement. Both of which are crimes. But given who sits in the White House itâs unlikely there would be charges.
I wouldnât put it past this guy to ask for immunity so he could bitch about a liberal witch hunt for the rest of his days. âI need immunity from all things forever because otherwise theyâll put me in jail for loving Ronald Reagan!â. Given the âunfair prosecutionâ elaboration from his lawyers he already seems to be running with that spin.
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