Youth baseball parents don't like child umpire's call, so they beat each other [UPDATED]

To its credit, Hockey Canada has been making a concerted effort to change how refs (frequently kids themselves) are treated. I’m a ref myself, as is my 15 year-old daughter, and we spend a good hour of our yearly recertification clinic time learning and practicing how to deal with abuse from players (infrequent), coaches and parents. One of the biggest barriers to change though is that people emulate what they see in professional sports. I cringe when I see an NHL coach yelling at a ref, or fans chanting “Ref, you suck.” Some sports have it right though. Go and Google “Nigel Owens rugby” and watch how that sport treats it’s officials.

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It’s a real struggle for parents to behave rationally as they too emotionally invested in their children.

Team sports have taught our children that there’s always someone else to blame, and that the players on the opposing team are nothing but dirty cheating arseholes. They’ve also seen parents generally behaving disgracefully in a way that they would otherwise be unlikely to ever witness. Throw in all the bloody driving, and it’s great! Character building.

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Trying not to wander too far off topic here, so bear with me.

I grew up playing competitive sports. My kids both play competitive sports at the club and scholastic levels. They also referee.

Having watched them play, as well as watching games while they were warming up or waiting for a field, and thus having no particular interest in the outcome;

One way youth sports could reduce the amount of abuse referees and officials take is to have a formal feedback system. It needs to be approached as a continuous improvement opportunity for the referees, which is much needed. As a parent, I have yelled at a ref or two when they have failed utterly to protect the players. I’ve seen a teammate of my daughter hit full-speed in the back of the neck by an elbow, with the referee a few yards away, with no call. She ended up in the hospital with a fractured vertebra. There is no place for that in youth sports (or in any sport), and that referee needs better training or removal from the referee pool. Right now, there is nothing in place for the referee to get feedback or training.

For what stand the Term “Brewers”?

I think it has a different meaning as the German translation: https://www.dict.cc/?s=brewers (Somebody who makes beer).

bj68

That’s what it means here, too.

The Milwaukee Brewers are the Major League baseball team. In other words, your ten-year-old is not being scouted to make tens if millions of dollars, so you can calm down.

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Thanks for the Info…now it´s clear for me…

Greetings from Switzerland

bj68

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So berated Umps get the 'ump and leave?

In honesty, and I’ve had a lot of coffee this morning (cold brew, since you ask, and damn good too) - the aim of the hippies to bring world peace etc was a good one. I’ve developed confidence that nowadays, with all these people stuck inside their phones, this is achievable in some proper sense via apps.

It’s all coming together. Ta da!

Because the question is - what are these people missing, what makes them so angry? If we list those elements out, then develop plans to counter them and actually improve lives, we can sew this shit up.

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You hit a nerve here.

I can’t remember seeing many posts scoring so good.

Also, no fight in the comments ensued. It seems that no known or unknown quantity of quantum physicists are among the BB BBS community.

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It’s probably not even “Little League”. LL is a specific organization, but like “Kleenex” has come to mean any tissue, “Little League” has come to mean any youth baseball. /shrug

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I don’t know. Meditating on the dualism of mind and body has kept my marriage together for many years.

We put Descartes before divorce.

Thanks, I’ll be here all week.

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