I know. WHAT??? Talk about truculence. THIS is the picture of truculence.
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Hey I learned a new world today. Thanks.
No, nothing I own I own with the intent of killing something. So no, I donât own a killing machine. I use firearms fairly often, but never with the intent of hurting someone and have managed to not hurt anyone accidentally.
The idea that this tool only has one purpose is a failure at looking at something objectively and reasoning.
Just like you probably own knives, bats, cars, poisons, chainsaws, large rocks, and other items you COULD use to kill someone but somehow manage to resist the urge to do so every day.
My point above. It is just a tool. Why should a picture of something never used to hurt someone upset someone? If you read about someone hit and running a pedestrian, does a picture of a car bother you too? Someone asked what I had, assuming I had a backroom clogged, and I have just one lonely one, not even set up for an attack like what happened (it canât focus well on close targets).
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Perhaps not, but if there was an article about a hit and run and someone posted saying - âhey! I have a car like that, itâs really cool, hereâs a picture of mineâ, then yes, I would think that was in poor taste.
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Fair enough. No one every said I was smooth and not socially awkward.
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Okay, Iâm intrigued. What other purpose does a gun have? Knives chop food, bats are used to play sports, cars are a means of transportation, poisons are a means of pest control, chainsaws cut down trees for lumber, and rocks are landscaping material. What purpose does a gun have that isnât killing (or at least severely wounding) a person or animal? If youâre going to say itâs a âdeterrentâ, the deterrent is âdonât do this or I will shoot you, causing harm and possibly deathâ, so I donât think that counts.
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Iâve said this before - shooting targets. Either informally or in competition. Yes some people buy them for defense, some even as the primary reason. But many, many people buy them for other reasons, and even those who BUY for defense, USE them only for target shooting.
There is everything from informal plinking of pop cans to formal practice, to actual competitions. There are many, many kinds, from precision long range bench rest, to timed fire courses. Skeet and trap shooting clay pigeons for shot guns. 3-gun competition for pistol/rifle/shot gun. one handed bulls eyes shooting. The list goes on. THAT is how most guns are being used.
Everything you see on TV and video games is FANTASY. If they treated cars like they treat guns you would think every person who drives a car to the grocery store would do so racing at 90mph and jumping at least one ramp. The reality is MOST people are using their guns at a private or public range or in their private land shooting at targets. Not on the Call of Duty battle field, not in the Grand Theft Auto city, not as an FBI secret agent, not fighting space aliens, etc
Swords and knives and clubs and bows and arrows and spears ALL had one purpose only - to kill things and harvest flesh when they were first invented. Of course we found others uses for these tools and most people are familiar with knives and clubs/bats and have no irrational fear of them - because they use them. But if someone attacked you, and all you had was a chef knife or a baseball bat, wouldnât you use that to defend yourself? Is the soul of the tool tainted because your ancestor used them exclusively as killing machines?
There is also hunting, which is technically killing something, but not exactly the same thing as shooting people. And unless you are a vegan, you would be hypocritical to criticize hunting.
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He always âpractice for killingâ aka âtarget shootingâ is the defining purpose of the home gun.
Youâre right, according to movies, I can use guns to open locked boxes and doors!
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And we have a Godwin!
Achievement unlocked!
And context is everything. Nazi flag at a White Power rally isnât the same thing as a Nazi flag your grandpa tore off pole in Germany. The swastika is still in used today in Hindu and Buddhist cultures.
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But not in Europe or America and I think Iâd know. It is permanently tarnished by the Nazis in these cultures.
Please tell me your rehabilitating it with your guns.
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âYouâre mistaken. I donât own any killing machines,â is just a lie.
Just because some particular person has never personally killed anybody with the guns he owns doesnât mean thatâs not what theyâre for, as has already been explained many times.
âArmsâ would not be mentioned in the constitution if they were not for killing the enemies of âa free state.â
Accusing other people of âfailure at looking at something objectively and reasoningâ compounds the lie with an insult.
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Semantics.
Someone can make a BB Bingo card or drinking game from this thread.
Many guns are MADE FOR specific things besides killing people. Over/under shot guns are for clay pigeons or bird hunting. The fancy âraceâ guns and precision shooting guns are made to be on the edge of performance, not the battlefield. Even ARs can be modified to be competition guns and unpractical as tactical weapons anymore.
Again - your knife was originally MADE FOR killing things and cutting flesh. Early man wasnât chopping up chives. Is your kitchen or pocket knife also tainted as an âarmsâ or âkilling machineâ.
Almost no one uses swords as actual weapons any more. So all those people who have wall hangers also have death machines? Those who practice martial arts with them are also practicing to kill actual people? Or are they learning the skill and craft?
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Already just a google away.
Itâs amusing how far detractors of some technologies will go with their emotions-manipulating semantic attempts.
If it is blue or on blue background and in the not-45-degree orientation, it is Finnish Air Force.
And when some cheap crap seller imports a bag of Eastern tchotchkes like toy rings and some have The Horrible Symbol, the media have a field day. Itâs comical.
What if it is in reaction to all those posts trash-talking car owners and associating murderous traits to people based on what is in their garages? Wouldnât a âI have a Toyota too but I did not run over anybodyâ reaction be justified? Does owning a Hylux Hilux automatically associate you with ISIS, even if they like Toyotas?
#notallhiluxes?
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Funny. Mine was made for cutting rope and vegetables. Can your gun do that?
#notallguns
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Yes, but not very well.
Nobody is in a position to brag about being less emotional than anybody else. Everyone has emotions, including you, right now. The dude who later shot up the Planned Parenthood clinic undoubtedly thought he was the rational objective one in the room whenever he had to deal with those hysterical womenfolk.
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Sure, everyone has emotions. One probably shouldnât make laws based on them, however.
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Good thing it takes more than one person to make laws.
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